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Habits of Highly Overrated People (2013)

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These articles come out with some regularity, and yet no one ever says, "Yep! That's totally me! I'm a non contributing zero but I've made a living at making others think I add to the team!" Everyone knows people like this, but no one is one.

Well, that's actually me. I do a lot of stuff on this list. No shame, I'm in upper management.

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These articles come out with some regularity, and yet no one ever says, "Yep! That's totally me! I'm a non contributing zero but I've made a living at making others think I add to the team!" Everyone knows people like this, but no one is one.

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I get the strong impression that many (most?) of the people fired from Twitter are just like the overrated person described in the article.

People love to act like Elon is some sort of mouth-breathing man child who stumbled into the CEO position through nothing but luck and connections.

Meanwhile, if I was to take over a company that's made up of thousands of developers, the first thing I would ask for is examples of the code written by those developers.

Don't tell me how fantastic and important you are. Show me the commits!

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These articles come out with some regularity, and yet no one ever says, "Yep! That's totally me! I'm a non contributing zero but I've made a living at making others think I add to the team!" Everyone knows people like this, but no one is one.

I think the reality is that anyone might engage in these behaviors from time to time. I've seen myself doing some of these things in my weaker moments and I've seen others doing them. And I've seen those same people turn around and contribute positively on other days. Of course no one is going to categorize themselves as highly overrated. Maybe that's because people often don't reliably fit into specific categories.

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I get the strong impression that many (most?) of the people fired from Twitter are just like the overrated person described in the article. People love to act like Elon is some sort of mouth-breathing man child who stumbled into the CEO position through nothing but luck and connections. Meanwhile, if I was to take over a company that's made up of thousands of developers, the first thing I would ask for is examples of…

I might believe that to some extent except that not all development jobs lend themselves equally to cranking out commits. Sure, if you're working on a well defined feature with all dependencies already built, you can really crank stuff out. However, those also tend to be the easiest jobs filled by junior developers. Solving the less well understood/defined problems often generated fewer commits per day but often generates more value.

Re: Habits of Highly Overrated People (2013)

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These articles come out with some regularity, and yet no one ever says, "Yep! That's totally me! I'm a non contributing zero but I've made a living at making others think I add to the team!" Everyone knows people like this, but no one is one.

There is a fine line between being highly overrated or just being successful at selling your achievements. I suspect a lot of people start out successfully selling their genuine achievements, but over time realise they can just do the selling.

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I get the strong impression that many (most?) of the people fired from Twitter are just like the overrated person described in the article. People love to act like Elon is some sort of mouth-breathing man child who stumbled into the CEO position through nothing but luck and connections. Meanwhile, if I was to take over a company that's made up of thousands of developers, the first thing I would ask for is examples of…

I get the strong impression that you‘ve never led a multi-billion dollar organization.

Don’t show me the random code you built that makes a users like history load 500 milliseconds faster, talk to me about how to make the product better/more engaging/monetized!

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You’ve pretty much described the narcissist who headed a company I worked for a while ago.

Example real life interaction:

Me: please can we defer this non critical meeting until after product launches in a few weeks as my team is super busy and we are about to sign a customer.

Them: Non critical meeting is important for team building, which is more important than product, and must therefore go ahead.

Me: ??????

It was nice to read this article and finally have a place to put all my WTFs.

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These articles come out with some regularity, and yet no one ever says, "Yep! That's totally me! I'm a non contributing zero but I've made a living at making others think I add to the team!" Everyone knows people like this, but no one is one.

First: there is of course an incentive not to admit this.

Second: I do believe that many people on HN really deeply care about technology/hacking topics and have detest for office politics. On the other hand, the people that the article discuss are good at office politics/marketing themselves and often don't have such a deep knowledge about programming. Thus, I would indeed assume that the typical HN reader/writer less likely fits into the "highly overrated people" pattern of the article.

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These articles come out with some regularity, and yet no one ever says, "Yep! That's totally me! I'm a non contributing zero but I've made a living at making others think I add to the team!" Everyone knows people like this, but no one is one.

I think a lot of these people are on the 'spectrum' of sociopathy.

At very least they're superficially charming bullshitters.

Either way, they're not the sort of people to call themselves out - even when they're fully aware of what they're doing.

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