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A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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This is such a weird story. Is google really using computer vision to detect CSAM? How could that possibly work? This seems like a tremendous technical challenge.

Usually photoDNA has been deployed for this, but that almost certainly wouldn't be triggered by the dad uploading his own photos that hadn't been previously marked as CSAM in the photoDNA database.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Does getting your google account blocked prevent you from using GCP? There are so many stories of people losing access to google accounts that it seems way too risky to use GCP when this sort of thing can happen.

Potentially yes, if you use a personal account for GCP. Don’t do it.

If you have to use GCP, use a burner account… because Google is absolutely asinine right now.

I would not trust Google if they were a hired employee to turn on my sprinklers in the morning.

Edit: For this reason, I am actually all in favor of having GCP, AWS, Azure, etc declared utilities. Unless there is a crime, we have a right to an account. Your electricity company can’t cut you off whenever they feel like.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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It's been three months, and AFAIK, Google still hasn't given him his account back yet.

That would require Google to at least tacitly Admit that they made a mistake.

Or that one guy who can restore accounts to get to it.

There’s no apparent customer service system so I suspect the whole process is informal to some extent.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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what happened to the guy was awful but in general, don't ever store medical correspondence on Google cloud or send it over email or messengers . Here in the EU and I would be surprised if it's different in the US there's dedicated apps for telemedicine which are regulated like medical devices, so there's confidentiality, no storage or scanning of vieo or audio, and so on. Sucks but you can't really treat any other se…

right but most people take pictures with their phones nowadays, which might automatically backup up to google photos.

And the supermajority of users of this set of systems and features are entirely technically unaware of how to micromanage it.

To them, they have a phone that backs up to the cloud.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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post #7

Does getting your google account blocked prevent you from using GCP? There are so many stories of people losing access to google accounts that it seems way too risky to use GCP when this sort of thing can happen.

Potentially yes, if you use a personal account for GCP. Don’t do it. If you have to use GCP, use a burner account… because Google is absolutely asinine right now. I would not trust Google if they were a hired employee to turn on my sprinklers in the morning. Edit: For this reason, I am actually all in favor of having GCP, AWS, Azure, etc declared utilities. Unless there is a crime, we have a right to an account. Your…

Google aggressively links accounts together. If you ever hire someone who was banned by big G, kiss everything goodbye.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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post #6

what happened to the guy was awful but in general, don't ever store medical correspondence on Google cloud or send it over email or messengers . Here in the EU and I would be surprised if it's different in the US there's dedicated apps for telemedicine which are regulated like medical devices, so there's confidentiality, no storage or scanning of vieo or audio, and so on. Sucks but you can't really treat any other se…

I don’t trust anyone with health data, honestly. Two examples from the UK:

Babylon data breach for UK GPs:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23471347

Palantir getting its teeth into the NHS:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56183785

Next time I need a doctors appointment I’ll do my best to make it in-person.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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post #6

what happened to the guy was awful but in general, don't ever store medical correspondence on Google cloud or send it over email or messengers . Here in the EU and I would be surprised if it's different in the US there's dedicated apps for telemedicine which are regulated like medical devices, so there's confidentiality, no storage or scanning of vieo or audio, and so on. Sucks but you can't really treat any other se…

right but most people take pictures with their phones nowadays, which might automatically backup up to google photos.

Sounds like there almost needs to be an incognito mode for cameras.
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