subsequent reporting showed that the missiles were Russian-made and most likely fired by Ukraine in defense against a Russian attack
They were fired by Ukraine towards Poland in defense?
AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story
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Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story
#12Getting fired for almost starting WW3 due to a fake story you wrote seems like a pretty light punishment. Maybe the AP will do a better job fact checking in the future before causing a war.
I doubt anyone at the Pentagon is launching missiles after reading an AP story.
Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story
#13I’m glad cooler heads prevailed. A lesson for the rest of us to wait for facts and stop being outraged by everything the press throws at us. That being said, Russia still is shit; and we wouldn’t be in this situation if they weren’t attacking civilian infrastructure in an attempt to freeze Ukrainians to death.
The americans, germans, french and every other country in the world are all “shit” by those standards - they have all done the same and would do the same again if their “national security objectives” required it. Ukraine would do the same to Russia if it could, the reason they aren’t is logistic, not moral. In every war, the propagandists try to promote the view that this war is a “good” or “just” war - they are all…
This war seems pretty a straightforward as far as an unnecessary war of aggression goes.
And frankly it seems just as sad to see Russian soldiers throw into the fight to die by their own government.
Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story
#14Getting fired for almost starting WW3 due to a fake story you wrote seems like a pretty light punishment. Maybe the AP will do a better job fact checking in the future before causing a war.
Yet Bush gets a free pass for actually starting a war on false information.
Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story
#15Getting fired for almost starting WW3 due to a fake story you wrote seems like a pretty light punishment. Maybe the AP will do a better job fact checking in the future before causing a war.
Even if it had been a Russian missile it would not have caused a wider war. The Soviets shot down a whole airliner in 1983 and didn't cause one.
Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story
#16It's amazing how quickly fake news is able to spread through "credible" news sources, all without even the slightest bit of real verification. I don't know if its scary or comforting to consider that if the political establishment wanted WW3, they could have it had it right there. The same intelligence agencies that convinced the world Iraq had WMD could have simply agreed with the story/Zelensky/et al, declare anybody debating it to be a "conspiracy theorist promoting Russian misinformation/propaganda", invoke article 5, and away we go.
Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story
#17I’m glad cooler heads prevailed. A lesson for the rest of us to wait for facts and stop being outraged by everything the press throws at us. That being said, Russia still is shit; and we wouldn’t be in this situation if they weren’t attacking civilian infrastructure in an attempt to freeze Ukrainians to death.
The americans, germans, french and every other country in the world are all “shit” by those standards - they have all done the same and would do the same again if their “national security objectives” required it. Ukraine would do the same to Russia if it could, the reason they aren’t is logistic, not moral. In every war, the propagandists try to promote the view that this war is a “good” or “just” war - they are all…
So what's your point? Should we join hands and welcome Russia to help themselves in Ukraine?
This whataboutism around Ukraine is emblematic of the problem with misaligned postmodern thinking. The fact of the matter is that Russia has violently invaded Ukraine and they are trying to bend Ukraine against its will. It's wrong and the world _should_ come to their side. Likewise if the tables were turned.
Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story
#18subsequent reporting showed that the missiles were Russian-made and most likely fired by Ukraine in defense against a Russian attack They were fired by Ukraine towards Poland in defense?
dude. they are anti-air missiles, pretty easy to understand they were flying west chasing a target
Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story
#19I’m glad cooler heads prevailed. A lesson for the rest of us to wait for facts and stop being outraged by everything the press throws at us. That being said, Russia still is shit; and we wouldn’t be in this situation if they weren’t attacking civilian infrastructure in an attempt to freeze Ukrainians to death.
The americans, germans, french and every other country in the world are all “shit” by those standards - they have all done the same and would do the same again if their “national security objectives” required it. Ukraine would do the same to Russia if it could, the reason they aren’t is logistic, not moral. In every war, the propagandists try to promote the view that this war is a “good” or “just” war - they are all…
Re: AP fires reporter behind retracted ‘Russian missiles’ story
#20subsequent reporting showed that the missiles were Russian-made and most likely fired by Ukraine in defense against a Russian attack They were fired by Ukraine towards Poland in defense?
They were anti-air missile(s) originating from an S-300 fired at Russian aerial threats (likely cruise missiles or Iranian drones).