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Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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Post by MonkeyMalarky »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #5
tyingq wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough that it's not robotic, but the idea of an unmanned sponge-bullet turret in my neighborhood that would fire without notice is pretty sensational anyway. For whoever it's shooting at, it has the same psychological effect as a robot shooting.

> the idea of an unmanned sponge-bullet turret in my neighborhood that would fire without notice is pretty sensational anyway Isn’t it objectively better than lethally-armed soldiers?

I think it just adds to dehumanization of both sides.

Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

macmac wrote: post #2

Sensationalist heading. The guns are not robotic, only remote controlled and they "only fire sponge-tipped bullets and tear gas".

Thank god they invented a unique gun that can only fire sponge-tipped bullets at the occupied population.

No way ever ever ever that this could be used in a slightly different, more deadly manner.

Maybe they can even add sensors that shout "ow" when hit with rocks by children so they can document the reason for a use of force.

Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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Post by bjourne »

macmac wrote: post #2

Sensationalist heading. The guns are not robotic, only remote controlled and they "only fire sponge-tipped bullets and tear gas".

"only"

Israel has killed babies with tear gas and maimed children with sponge-tipped bullets before. This will continue as there wont be any consequences at all for the sadists operating these guns. Previously they could at least be caught on film and the outcry would force some kind of investigation. Now there is not even that and no one will be held responsible for maiming children. This is precisely why the Israeli academy should be boycotted. Because it helps the Israeli regime develop these kind of extremely disturbing weapons.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/7/10/palestinian-baby-di... https://www.dci-palestine.org/sponge_tipped_bullet_fired_by_...

Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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Post by BurningFrog »

tyingq wrote: post #3
macmac wrote: post #2

Sensationalist heading. The guns are not robotic, only remote controlled and they "only fire sponge-tipped bullets and tear gas".

Fair enough that it's not robotic, but the idea of an unmanned sponge-bullet turret in my neighborhood that would fire without notice is pretty sensational anyway. For whoever it's shooting at, it has the same psychological effect as a robot shooting.

They're manned, the man is just somewhere else.

Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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Post by kurtreed »

jstanley wrote: post #10
macmac wrote: post #2

Sensationalist heading. The guns are not robotic, only remote controlled and they "only fire sponge-tipped bullets and tear gas".

How are they remotely-controlled if they're not robotic? A system of ropes and pulleys? I think you mean to say they're not AI, but they are still robotic.

https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1540729921793708032

Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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Post by ISL »

BurningFrog wrote: post #14
tyingq wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough that it's not robotic, but the idea of an unmanned sponge-bullet turret in my neighborhood that would fire without notice is pretty sensational anyway. For whoever it's shooting at, it has the same psychological effect as a robot shooting.

They're manned, the man is just somewhere else.

Worked well for the Milgram experiment.

Re: Israel deploys remote-controlled robotic guns

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

tyingq wrote: post #7
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the idea of an unmanned sponge-bullet turret in my neighborhood that would fire without notice is pretty sensational anyway Isn’t it objectively better than lethally-armed soldiers?

I imagine that's a complicated question. Do people remotely controlling weapons naturally make the same kind of decisions as those looking right at people?

> Do people remotely controlling weapons naturally make the same kind of decisions as those looking right at people?

I'm not sure. I could see it going both ways: de-humanised killers unleashed, or a lack of fight-or-flight prompted panics. Absent information on that, though, non-lethal is better than lethal.

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