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Re: Tell HN: The German job market is crashing

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Post by Sladik »

_aavaa_ wrote: post #7

> https://petra.carrion.io/job-market-analytics/slides/#/6/0/0 Is there some German/EU law that requires job postings to be available for at minimum one calendar month? Cause that spike at ~30-31 days is real conspicuous. Or at HR people just defaulting to 30/60/90 days for the posting being automatically removed?

I cannot say if it is a law or the pricing plan but 30 days seems to be the most recurrent job post length.

That means that the crash probably started in October and we started seeing it on the data at the beginning of November.

Re: Tell HN: The German job market is crashing

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Post by Sladik »

nerb wrote: post #8
Sladik wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems that Dash cannot take the Hacker News traffic, here is a screenshot until it is online again: https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/ElMG6yee19KT.png?o=1

does it go back any further than end of 2021?

Unfortunately, I have data only from October 2021, that's why the longest time filter is 12 months.

Re: Tell HN: The German job market is crashing

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Post by HeikeMaria »

_aavaa_ wrote: post #7

> https://petra.carrion.io/job-market-analytics/slides/#/6/0/0 Is there some German/EU law that requires job postings to be available for at minimum one calendar month? Cause that spike at ~30-31 days is real conspicuous. Or at HR people just defaulting to 30/60/90 days for the posting being automatically removed?

Not sure which sources she crawled ... Many of the German job boards require companies to purchase job ads which expire after 30 days.

Re: Tell HN: The German job market is crashing

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Post by _aavaa_ »

Sladik wrote: post #11
_aavaa_ wrote: post #7

> https://petra.carrion.io/job-market-analytics/slides/#/6/0/0 Is there some German/EU law that requires job postings to be available for at minimum one calendar month? Cause that spike at ~30-31 days is real conspicuous. Or at HR people just defaulting to 30/60/90 days for the posting being automatically removed?

I cannot say if it is a law or the pricing plan but 30 days seems to be the most recurrent job post length. That means that the crash probably started in October and we started seeing it on the data at the beginning of November.

Looking at it again, I don't think the law idea I put forth makes sense. The pricing plan sounds more likely, especially given the ringing behaviour at multiples of 30/31 days.

I guess a large majority of those postings go unfilled.

Do you do any work to try to find if a position has been re-posted and recombine it with its previous posting for the purpose of this calculation?

Re: Tell HN: The German job market is crashing

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Post by sendfoods »

Sladik wrote: post #14
sendfoods wrote: post #10

This is very, very disheartening. Finishing my degree in exactly 2 weeks.

Then good luck with that. I remember 2009 which was also a hard year but it wasn't impossible. Maybe start right after you are done.

Had an interview a couple weeks ago which, unfortunately, didn't work out. Will do.

Re: Tell HN: The German job market is crashing

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Post by _aavaa_ »

Sladik wrote: post #11
_aavaa_ wrote: post #7

> https://petra.carrion.io/job-market-analytics/slides/#/6/0/0 Is there some German/EU law that requires job postings to be available for at minimum one calendar month? Cause that spike at ~30-31 days is real conspicuous. Or at HR people just defaulting to 30/60/90 days for the posting being automatically removed?

I cannot say if it is a law or the pricing plan but 30 days seems to be the most recurrent job post length. That means that the crash probably started in October and we started seeing it on the data at the beginning of November.

I don't know if one can draw the October conclusion. Would HR leave the posting up to expire on their own if they know they won't hire anyone?

I say that since they seem to remove them (presumably because they got enough applicants or actually hired someone) before the 30/31 day mark.

Re: Tell HN: The German job market is crashing

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Post by pigtailgirl »

sendfoods wrote: post #16
Sladik wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then good luck with that. I remember 2009 which was also a hard year but it wasn't impossible. Maybe start right after you are done.

Had an interview a couple weeks ago which, unfortunately, didn't work out. Will do.

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