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Re: Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal

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Using a fez (or fes, if you prefer) as a logo for a "Fast, Effective, Simple" framework named "Kemal" is kind of unfortunate/ironic. Kemal Ataturk actually abolished the use of the fez [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_Revolution

This was my first thought the moment I saw the website. I thought maybe the dev's name is Kemal, but that wasn't the case either.

Re: Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While Atatürk is likely the most well-known person named Kemal to date, it's a pretty common name, and it means something like "mature" or "complete" [1], which is sort of a good goal to reach, or a quality to advertise, for a framework. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_(name)

Check closely the wikipedia list: The name became truly popular only after 1923, when Atatürk established the Republic of Turkey, and it's mostly popular among Turkish people. So, even though Atatürk was not the first person to be named Kemal, he practically "owns" the name today.

Kemal is an Arabic word. And its a loan word in Persian. And from the influence of Persian & Arabic its used heavily in Turkic and Indo-Aryan languages (Turkish, Urdu/Hindi).

It was mainstream even before Ataturk in India/Iran (Fars territory). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Kemal

Re: Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal

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Using a fez (or fes, if you prefer) as a logo for a "Fast, Effective, Simple" framework named "Kemal" is kind of unfortunate/ironic. Kemal Ataturk actually abolished the use of the fez [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_Revolution

Maybe that was his point.

Re: Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal

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OK, OK! I keep seeing news for Crystal lately. I can take a hint, Universe - I'll write a new project in it.

It's probably just consequence of some person trying really hard to promote the language these days, rather than a divine intervention.

Re: Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal

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OK, OK! I keep seeing news for Crystal lately. I can take a hint, Universe - I'll write a new project in it.

That last one that hit HN frontpage was 16 days ago [1], and apart from my submission for 1.6 release which barely hit the frontpage, the next discussion on Crystal was September.

Compared to the HN darling, Rust. Crystal is hardly active.

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Re: Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal

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Using a fez (or fes, if you prefer) as a logo for a "Fast, Effective, Simple" framework named "Kemal" is kind of unfortunate/ironic. Kemal Ataturk actually abolished the use of the fez [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_Revolution

While Atatürk is likely the most well-known person named Kemal to date, it's a pretty common name, and it means something like "mature" or "complete" [1], which is sort of a good goal to reach, or a quality to advertise, for a framework. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_(name)

latest tweet from the official twitter account has a quote from Atatürk.

Re: Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal

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OK, OK! I keep seeing news for Crystal lately. I can take a hint, Universe - I'll write a new project in it.

It's probably just consequence of some person trying really hard to promote the language these days, rather than a divine intervention.

Some would argue that “some person” and “the universe” are the same.

Re: Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal

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Using a fez (or fes, if you prefer) as a logo for a "Fast, Effective, Simple" framework named "Kemal" is kind of unfortunate/ironic. Kemal Ataturk actually abolished the use of the fez [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_Revolution

It’s offensive.
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