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Northrop Grumman Employees Receive NASA’s Highest Honors for Building the JWST

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Re: Northrop Grumman Employees Receive NASA’s Highest Honors for Building the JWST

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Post by dylan604 »

Robotbeat wrote: post #8

One thing that will be memory holed because of the ultimate successful launch is just the MASSIVE overpromising on schedule and budget. Nearly criminal, in fact. Billions of dollars wasted and countless valuable missions that had to be sacrificed. The team (I think under new management) eventually delivered a successful launch, so no one will remember. I do think the final team who got it turned around and actually l…

In this line of thought, in about 15 years, Boeing employees will get recognized for the incredible work on Starliner capsule. Wait, at this rate, it'll be closer to 25 years. But as the saying goes, good things come to those who wait and wait and wait and bloat the budget

Re: Northrop Grumman Employees Receive NASA’s Highest Honors for Building the JWST

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

Robotbeat wrote: post #8

One thing that will be memory holed because of the ultimate successful launch is just the MASSIVE overpromising on schedule and budget. Nearly criminal, in fact. Billions of dollars wasted and countless valuable missions that had to be sacrificed. The team (I think under new management) eventually delivered a successful launch, so no one will remember. I do think the final team who got it turned around and actually l…

>One thing that will be memory holed because of the ultimate successful launch is just the MASSIVE overpromising on schedule and budget.

All the bureaucrats and contractors who are part of the revolving door will remember it and not in a way that is good for us.

Re: Northrop Grumman Employees Receive NASA’s Highest Honors for Building the JWST

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Post by TremendousJudge »

Robotbeat wrote: post #8

One thing that will be memory holed because of the ultimate successful launch is just the MASSIVE overpromising on schedule and budget. Nearly criminal, in fact. Billions of dollars wasted and countless valuable missions that had to be sacrificed. The team (I think under new management) eventually delivered a successful launch, so no one will remember. I do think the final team who got it turned around and actually l…

Looking from the outside it completely sounds like a death march project and all the engineers and technicians who actually pulled it off deserve a big award and a long vacation. It's not their fault that execs overpromised.

Re: Northrop Grumman Employees Receive NASA’s Highest Honors for Building the JWST

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Post by tibbydudeza »

Robotbeat wrote: post #8

One thing that will be memory holed because of the ultimate successful launch is just the MASSIVE overpromising on schedule and budget. Nearly criminal, in fact. Billions of dollars wasted and countless valuable missions that had to be sacrificed. The team (I think under new management) eventually delivered a successful launch, so no one will remember. I do think the final team who got it turned around and actually l…

And money well worth spent IMHO even 10 times that amount to increase our understanding of the universe say compared to spending on Twitter.

Orchestrating a very complicated remote deployment 1.5 million miles from earth with no do overs deserves some kudos.

Re: Northrop Grumman Employees Receive NASA’s Highest Honors for Building the JWST

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Post by sidewndr46 »

tibbydudeza wrote: post #14
Robotbeat wrote: post #8

One thing that will be memory holed because of the ultimate successful launch is just the MASSIVE overpromising on schedule and budget. Nearly criminal, in fact. Billions of dollars wasted and countless valuable missions that had to be sacrificed. The team (I think under new management) eventually delivered a successful launch, so no one will remember. I do think the final team who got it turned around and actually l…

And money well worth spent IMHO even 10 times that amount to increase our understanding of the universe say compared to spending on Twitter. Orchestrating a very complicated remote deployment 1.5 million miles from earth with no do overs deserves some kudos.

In what world does the federal taxpayer fund Twitter?

Re: Northrop Grumman Employees Receive NASA’s Highest Honors for Building the JWST

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Post by [deleted] »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #15
tibbydudeza wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And money well worth spent IMHO even 10 times that amount to increase our understanding of the universe say compared to spending on Twitter. Orchestrating a very complicated remote deployment 1.5 million miles from earth with no do overs deserves some kudos.

In what world does the federal taxpayer fund Twitter?

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Re: Northrop Grumman Employees Receive NASA’s Highest Honors for Building the JWST

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Post by adriand »

Robotbeat wrote: post #8

One thing that will be memory holed because of the ultimate successful launch is just the MASSIVE overpromising on schedule and budget. Nearly criminal, in fact. Billions of dollars wasted and countless valuable missions that had to be sacrificed. The team (I think under new management) eventually delivered a successful launch, so no one will remember. I do think the final team who got it turned around and actually l…

It's somewhat amusing to read this criticism on a website primarily populated by people in the software industry, which is hardly a paragon of accurate estimation and forecasting. Proportionate excesses (i.e. 10X over-budget) may not be the norm, but they are hardly rare, and they are always for projects far more prosaic than launching a telescope into space.

Re: Northrop Grumman Employees Receive NASA’s Highest Honors for Building the JWST

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Post by [deleted] »

tibbydudeza wrote: post #14
Robotbeat wrote: post #8

One thing that will be memory holed because of the ultimate successful launch is just the MASSIVE overpromising on schedule and budget. Nearly criminal, in fact. Billions of dollars wasted and countless valuable missions that had to be sacrificed. The team (I think under new management) eventually delivered a successful launch, so no one will remember. I do think the final team who got it turned around and actually l…

And money well worth spent IMHO even 10 times that amount to increase our understanding of the universe say compared to spending on Twitter. Orchestrating a very complicated remote deployment 1.5 million miles from earth with no do overs deserves some kudos.

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Re: Northrop Grumman Employees Receive NASA’s Highest Honors for Building the JWST

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Post by georgeg23 »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #15
tibbydudeza wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And money well worth spent IMHO even 10 times that amount to increase our understanding of the universe say compared to spending on Twitter. Orchestrating a very complicated remote deployment 1.5 million miles from earth with no do overs deserves some kudos.

In what world does the federal taxpayer fund Twitter?

Probably referring to capital (and human resources) allocation in general.
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