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Musk orders Twitter to cut infrastructure costs by $1B – sources

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Re: Musk orders Twitter to cut infrastructure costs by $1B – sources

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$1bn, the exact amount of debt interest Twitter now has to pay off after Musk saddled it with so much debt. So much of this feels like such a waste. I don’t have any problem with the idea of someone taking Twitter private in order to fix it. But with this kind of debt financing and with a CEO that doesn’t seem to understand the company (and tried to get out of buying it)…

Why a waste? Sounds like a smart move?

Buy a company, drastically reduce unnecessary expenses.

Re: Musk orders Twitter to cut infrastructure costs by $1B – sources

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post #11
post #4

$1bn, the exact amount of debt interest Twitter now has to pay off after Musk saddled it with so much debt. So much of this feels like such a waste. I don’t have any problem with the idea of someone taking Twitter private in order to fix it. But with this kind of debt financing and with a CEO that doesn’t seem to understand the company (and tried to get out of buying it)…

Why a waste? Sounds like a smart move? Buy a company, drastically reduce unnecessary expenses.

All those unnecessary expenses like content moderation and robust fault tolerant infrastructure.

Re: Musk orders Twitter to cut infrastructure costs by $1B – sources

#13
Elon used to be a software engineer so it's kinda weird how he thinks a legacy codebase like Twitter can be fixed up to use $1B less every year. Twitter is limited mainly by storage, their compute costs are negligible in comparison. So unless there is so much bloat in their hardware procurement process that they're over-provisioning storage by more than $1B a year there is no way to reduce costs. The hardware costs what it does and there is no way to rewrite the software at this point to reduce hardware costs and still maintain backward compatibility with the existing Twitter functionality (no matter how minimal the feature set seems to be for external observers).

So either this article is a lie or Elon is just making nonsensical statement to focus attention on what it costs to run Twitter at such a scale. If people don't pay then the functionality will continue to degrade and it's looking like there aren't enough willing buyers for $8/month. The only way Twitter can continue to operate is if the people that actively use the service start paying for it, every other financing option is now closed off and if Elon can't turn it around then I doubt anyone else can.

Re: Musk orders Twitter to cut infrastructure costs by $1B – sources

#14
post #4

$1bn, the exact amount of debt interest Twitter now has to pay off after Musk saddled it with so much debt. So much of this feels like such a waste. I don’t have any problem with the idea of someone taking Twitter private in order to fix it. But with this kind of debt financing and with a CEO that doesn’t seem to understand the company (and tried to get out of buying it)…

Ignoring all the other things that are wrong with this whole situation... if they can make it $1B more efficient, how is it a waste even given the loans? Presumably the plan is to get rid of the debt eventually, and then you'll have a much more financially healthy company, assuming it can actually get $1B more efficient.

Re: Musk orders Twitter to cut infrastructure costs by $1B – sources

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The risk for Twitter isn’t that it might go down for some periods of time. The risk is that if it starts going down on a regular basis and/or performance is degraded, a competitor could swoop in and clean their clocks. This might be a good time for Google to start Google+ again as an independent product one needs to sign in and create a new account for.

The network effect is too strong for some occasional downtime to give even a well-funded competitor a window in.

Re: Musk orders Twitter to cut infrastructure costs by $1B – sources

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post #12
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why a waste? Sounds like a smart move? Buy a company, drastically reduce unnecessary expenses.

All those unnecessary expenses like content moderation and robust fault tolerant infrastructure.

Twitter going down occasionally wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.

Re: Musk orders Twitter to cut infrastructure costs by $1B – sources

#17

The risk for Twitter isn’t that it might go down for some periods of time. The risk is that if it starts going down on a regular basis and/or performance is degraded, a competitor could swoop in and clean their clocks. This might be a good time for Google to start Google+ again as an independent product one needs to sign in and create a new account for.

It seems like a good time for Meta & Google just to make Twitter clones and see if they can get it to stick.

Re: Musk orders Twitter to cut infrastructure costs by $1B – sources

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post #12
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why a waste? Sounds like a smart move? Buy a company, drastically reduce unnecessary expenses.

All those unnecessary expenses like content moderation and robust fault tolerant infrastructure.

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Re: Musk orders Twitter to cut infrastructure costs by $1B – sources

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The risk for Twitter isn’t that it might go down for some periods of time. The risk is that if it starts going down on a regular basis and/or performance is degraded, a competitor could swoop in and clean their clocks. This might be a good time for Google to start Google+ again as an independent product one needs to sign in and create a new account for.

Social media has always been a ghetto and it'll be interesting to see how many guys try and fail to build the next twitter in a few years before they realize why it was doomed from the start

Re: Musk orders Twitter to cut infrastructure costs by $1B – sources

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To be fair, there are going to be plenty of critical leaks coming out of Twitter with a 50% cutting of staff. That's so many whistleblowers, my backyard is completely leaf free now. Frankly, if Musk cuts $1B from the run rate and there isn't a bad outage, a lot of people will look pretty stupid.

To be fair, I don't know if Twitter is overspending on infrastructure, but I would guess there are always places to streamline. You could frankly save a ton of money by re-negotiating commits with Google.

Also, $1B to me shows how insane running a large business in the cloud can be. This is sort of where Facebook/Meta got it right, IMHO - run infrastructure on-prem, at scale, in a super-efficient "everything fails" sort of way.

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