I wonder if the same amount of resources will be used to take down the Nationwide Bicycle Theft Ring as well.
Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring
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#12It's kinda fascinating to watch mining for precious metals go from digging tunnels, to extracting from other people's cars. I wonder if this will make a dent in how often it happens. My niece's was stolen in broad daylight.
Only thing that will help is serious prison sentences and the right to defend property with deadly force. Many areas of the country there is no consequences.
I mean you can buy - and I wish I was kidding - armor for your car to prevent the theft: https://search.brave.com/search?q=catalytic+converter+guard
Re: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic converter theft ring
#13It's kinda fascinating to watch mining for precious metals go from digging tunnels, to extracting from other people's cars. I wonder if this will make a dent in how often it happens. My niece's was stolen in broad daylight.
Only thing that will help is serious prison sentences and the right to defend property with deadly force. Many areas of the country there is no consequences.
How do we get from catalytic converters to the right to murder so quickly?
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#14It should be legal to run a straight-pipe if your cat gets stolen through no fault of your own. The economics incentives of the black market are there in the first place largely proximal to policy. As it stands .gov gets to light the candle from both ends, going after those failing emissions while also going after the cat thieves. Edit: Love the helpful comments though telling poor people just to move out of the city…
What incentives do you mean? Catalytic converters protect all of us from harmful compounds in exhaust, and I don't see why to fight thieves we need to breathe bad air.
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#15I wonder if the same amount of resources will be used to take down the Nationwide Bicycle Theft Ring as well.
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#16It's kinda fascinating to watch mining for precious metals go from digging tunnels, to extracting from other people's cars. I wonder if this will make a dent in how often it happens. My niece's was stolen in broad daylight.
Only thing that will help is serious prison sentences and the right to defend property with deadly force. Many areas of the country there is no consequences.
You know how if you punish a dog, it doesn't really learn and get better? Humans are like that too.
Theft is heavily correlated with the economy. Arguably it's a canary in the mine - you can very usually tell what's going to happen in the macroeconomics of an area by just following crime statistics.
"Deterrence" has generally been found to be a pretty well-rooted myth. Majority of theft also happens by people who _don't actually know what the consequences are_. So just increasing them doesn't actually help.
If you can show strong evidence that prison is one of the best ways of reducing crime, then sure you've convinced me (and probably plenty others).
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#17This theft is so costly and prevalent in my neighborhood, it's like $2,500 per 100 people. In 2 years, I've had mine stolen twice.
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#18It's kinda fascinating to watch mining for precious metals go from digging tunnels, to extracting from other people's cars. I wonder if this will make a dent in how often it happens. My niece's was stolen in broad daylight.
Only thing that will help is serious prison sentences and the right to defend property with deadly force. Many areas of the country there is no consequences.
Property is not worth a life. Not even the life of the person damaging it. Property can be replaced, a life can not.
Besides, there’s way too much margin for error in vigilante justice. That’s why we have trials, imperfect as even they may be. They’re certainly better than empowering everyone to be judge, jury, and executioner because they thought you might be committing a property crime.
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#19>The 21 defendants are charged in two separate indictments that were unsealed today in the Eastern District of California and the Northern District of Oklahoma following extensive law enforcement arrest and search operations. In addition to the indictments, over 32 search warrants were executed, and law enforcement seized millions of dollars in assets, including homes, bank accounts, cash, and luxury vehicles. I obvi…
I think that if you paid for your home with criminal activity you should forfeit that to repay the victims of your crimes. If your legal and illegal stuff is together, tough shit.
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#20It's kinda fascinating to watch mining for precious metals go from digging tunnels, to extracting from other people's cars. I wonder if this will make a dent in how often it happens. My niece's was stolen in broad daylight.
Only thing that will help is serious prison sentences and the right to defend property with deadly force. Many areas of the country there is no consequences.
Here in Texas, the law does give the right to defend property with deadly force[1]. And lots of people have guns. We are the #1 state on the list of gun ownership[2].
And catalytic converter theft is still very common. We are the #2 state on the list of catalytic converter thefts per 100k automobiles[3].
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[1] https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/PE/htm/PE.9.htm
[2] https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/gun-ownership-rates-by-stat...
[3] https://www.beenverified.com/data-analysis/catalytic-convert...