He's always pushing his population collapse agenda and urging people to have children... Guess it's all about having them, not raising them.
Twitter staff have been told to work 84-hour weeks
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#12"I work at Google and they've told me to work 125 hours weeks". In that statement I provided just as much evidence for my claim as the article does their claim. In fact, there's more proof for my claim since it has a username tied to it, whereas the article just cites anonymous "according to internal sources". And yet, this is an article that how many thousands of people will read, and internalize into their model of…
Especially when you look at how much journalists have gotten wrong the past few days.
Ligma and Johnson ("They are visibly shaken"), mass layoffs before Nov 1st (nope), unbanned accounts would be back on by Monday (nope), Elon restored Ye's account (it was restored before the acquisition), Saudi Arabia bought into Twitter (they already were shareholders), etc...
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#15Does America not have the concept of constructive dismissal?
In California, you don't need to construct a dismissal. It's an "at-will" employment state, which means you can be fired at any time without any reason or any reason (so long as if there's a reason, it's not because of a minor list of things.) In practice what this means is, in tech at least, you're thrown a nickle or two in exchange for an agreement, among other things, that you won't sure the company for violating…
You don't need to but companies would still much rather you walk away from an HR perspective.
That "minor list of things" you allude to becomes very problematic for the company if someone even tries to claim it your underlying motivation was tied to it.
So people willingly leaving because of a blanket decree removes that aspect entirely.
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#16He's always pushing his population collapse agenda and urging people to have children... Guess it's all about having them, not raising them.
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#17I think people might be missing the point here. Elon probably wants higher turnover.
These are very desirable jobs. People would bend over backwards to work at Twitter. Younger, cheaper people who have strong ideas of how to fix Twitter and would actually try to push these ideas. And these seats are currently filled with older, expensive employees who like things the way they are averse to things breaking. Either that or you are a rough and tumble old timer who can thrive in chaos.
This is very intentionally the model at his other companies. Or places like Amazon where they have almost perfected the art of extracting exactly 3 years of valuable work from young developers.
I don't think Musk actually cares about that 84th hour of work. But I think he is very much trying to signal to current and potential employees that this will not be a comfortable long term career prospect.
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#18"Twitter managers have told some staff to work 12-hour shifts, seven days a week " "Staff worry that their careers at Twitter could be over if they don't complete their tasks by the early November deadlines, CNBC reported." I would be more worried my career wouldn't be over.
Yeah if I were at twitter I would accept these deadlines with a smile on my face, turn around and start applying to competitors 12 hours a day until I got a job that valued me as a human being.
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#19Musk is a bully.
Like any bully, he is doing this to find out who is easy to pick on, and will keep them around, while dismissing those who are willing/able to fight back.
Life will continue to be miserable to those he keeps around.
My advice to all engineers feeling this pressure -- start looking now. Leave as soon as possible. You are more valuable than what Musk thinks of you.
Those who are in a position to do so -- punch back. Do no, or negative work (if it does not harm teammates who cannot afford to be laid off). Force him to lay you off and give severance.
Bullies do not deserve your time. They deserve to be crushed.
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#20I think people might be missing the point here. Elon probably wants higher turnover. These are very desirable jobs. People would bend over backwards to work at Twitter. Younger, cheaper people who have strong ideas of how to fix Twitter and would actually try to push these ideas. And these seats are currently filled with older, expensive employees who like things the way they are averse to things breaking. Either tha…
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