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Re: Advice that worked for me

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Post by gloryjulio » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 5:53 AM UTC

colechristensen wrote: post #10

gloryjulio wrote: post #4

'The don't sleep too much and reduce to 7h' is such a horrible take. It really depends on the ppl. It's possible to do all the positive things (having great wlb, workout regularly, eat the healthiest food) and some ppl just need to sleep 8-9 hours. This is self help's guru level of advice

The title is “worked for me”, that should be self explanatory.

I mean it's wrong in principle. You don't optimize to shorten ur sleep. U optimize ur sleep in various aspects(or rest in a broad term) which might happen to shorten ur sleep in the process. This in turn optimizes ur throughput. The goal is just wrong. Sleep debt is real

Re: Advice that worked for me

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Post by gloryjulio » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 6:00 AM UTC

jayeshhere wrote: post #9

gloryjulio wrote: post #4

'The don't sleep too much and reduce to 7h' is such a horrible take. It really depends on the ppl. It's possible to do all the positive things (having great wlb, workout regularly, eat the healthiest food) and some ppl just need to sleep 8-9 hours. This is self help's guru level of advice

tbf OP did mentioned it varies from genetics to genetics. 7-7.5 hrs is actually good spot. Mostly 8 hrs is recommended. For me 6 hrs is enough, but it also depends upon the work you are doing in your day to day life.

The goal is just plain wrong. You don't optimize to shorten ur sleep, u optimize to improve ur sleep and rest pattern which might happen to shorten ur sleep.

> 7-7.5 hrs is actually good spot. Mostly 8 hrs is recommended.

That is correct. The goal is to find ur best. Not defining a number and going backwards to justify it.

Glorifying sleeplessness is extremely bad. The author might be in sleep debt himself. Also we need to consider the throughput as the performance varies. When I was tired I would not be able to code as efficient.

Re: Advice that worked for me

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Post by seibelj » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 6:15 AM UTC

gloryjulio wrote: post #4

'The don't sleep too much and reduce to 7h' is such a horrible take. It really depends on the ppl. It's possible to do all the positive things (having great wlb, workout regularly, eat the healthiest food) and some ppl just need to sleep 8-9 hours. This is self help's guru level of advice

It might be possible to train yourself differently. Since having kids my sleep is much more like a control knob - I can go more days without it before needing a recharge.

Re: Advice that worked for me

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Post by graposaymaname » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 6:26 AM UTC

Flatcircle wrote: post #2

Solid advice, commenting here so o can go back and find this info later

FYI: Instead you can favorite the post on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/favorites?id=Flatcircle

Re: Advice that worked for me

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Post by DeathArrow » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 6:41 AM UTC

Interesting point about Fermi estimations. I used to roughly estimate things in my head without knowing that it has a name.

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Post by zo1 » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 6:43 AM UTC

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Re: Advice that worked for me

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Post by baxtr » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 6:46 AM UTC

gloryjulio wrote: post #11

colechristensen wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The title is “worked for me”, that should be self explanatory.

I mean it's wrong in principle. You don't optimize to shorten ur sleep. U optimize ur sleep in various aspects(or rest in a broad term) which might happen to shorten ur sleep in the process. This in turn optimizes ur throughput. The goal is just wrong. Sleep debt is real

>You don't optimize to shorten ur sleep.

Hmm. Don’t you think that anyone can do what they want?

Re: Advice that worked for me

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Post by habibur » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 7:20 AM UTC

Points 1 to 5 were the best ones.

Re: Advice that worked for me

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Post by quickthrower2 » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 7:21 AM UTC

This advice might be awful for some people, esp. around sleep and exercise. Ironically he says you should fact check… so do that, and take into account your health, fitness etc. before changing sleep and exercise patterns.

Getting stuff done is a boost. It can compound but not infinitely. A 10 hour day of programming will take a toll on most people and is jot sustainable. 10h of various stuff including programming maybe!

Re: Advice that worked for me

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Post by manholio » Thu, Nov 03, 2022, 7:25 AM UTC

gloryjulio wrote: post #4

'The don't sleep too much and reduce to 7h' is such a horrible take. It really depends on the ppl. It's possible to do all the positive things (having great wlb, workout regularly, eat the healthiest food) and some ppl just need to sleep 8-9 hours. This is self help's guru level of advice

There is also a giant fallacy in this advice that you "gain an extra 2 hours". no, you start working 2 hours earlier, but you will be just as beat in the evenings, and still unable to do more than slouch on the couch and watch Netflix. If you don't use that time for working already, than why would you ruin your sleep patterns? especially since 2 hours less sleep is a massive reduction for most people.