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Life after Heroku: What's a dev to do?

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Re: Life after Heroku: What's a dev to do?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels like a bait-and-switch and the "heroin dealer" model to give something away for free just long enough that people become reliant on it, and then suddenly make it be paid.

It was given away for free for 10+ years. What does Heroku / Salesforce owe us?

Apparently Heroku is a welfare state program and everyone is entitled to free shit.

Re: Life after Heroku: What's a dev to do?

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post #4

Pay?

There are plenty of reasons to dunk on Heroku from the last year. I’m not sure why asking customers to pay for hosting us one of them.

Even if you are a paying customer, this change is likely to affect you. Heroku no longer offers free postgresql to go alongside your already enormously expensive dynos.

From a previous thread on this topic - posted by driverdan:

> We're a large Heroku user currently spending $10-20k/month. This change may lead us to switching to another platform.

> We host a lot of individual apps, many that only need free tier DBs and Redis. This change will roughly double the cost of a basic app on pro dynos + DB + redis, from $25/m to $49/m, with no additional benefit.

> Heroku is already very expensive. $25/m for 512MB RAM is laughable. At $49/m we could get a decent bare metal server for each of our apps.

> If this change included a reduction in pricing to better match alternatives it would be fine. If they only eliminated the free tier for dynos but kept free tiers of add-ons that would be fine. But as is this change will significantly increase the cost for anyone using some free resources.

Re: Life after Heroku: What's a dev to do?

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All the free alternatives will eventually get rid of their free tier too - could be 1 year, could be 10 years. As the author stated, they had 25 free instances running. They converted over to paid, so maybe they became a profitable client. However, all the users who have 25+ instances and never pay over the course of 10 year isn't sustainable for a business.

Re: Life after Heroku: What's a dev to do?

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of reasons to dunk on Heroku from the last year. I’m not sure why asking customers to pay for hosting us one of them.

It feels like a bait-and-switch and the "heroin dealer" model to give something away for free just long enough that people become reliant on it, and then suddenly make it be paid.

I think not even drug dealers give away their stuff for free, but if you know one that does do let me know!

Re: Life after Heroku: What's a dev to do?

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Interested to hear what the paying business customers who migrated away from Heroku think about their new home and the process to move to Fly/Render/Digital Ocean/whatever?

I've migrated one larger project with several containers / databases to AWS Fargate / RDS and a smaller one to Scalingo [0]. In both cases, I'm happy with how it turned out and the migration went fine.

One of the main drivers behind the decision was that Heroku required us to move to the Enterprise tier to run private databases.

If the architecture of your application is not too complex, I would suggest trying Scalingo (or Fly.io, Render, etc.) first. It took me around a day to get the application running on Scalingo, Fly.io and Render. This allowed us to be able to compare them a bit. In the end, we went with Scalingo, since the Review Apps feature to automatically launch environments from pull request worked well for our workflow.

You can see the configuration for Scalingo for a smaller elixir app on Github [1].

[0] https://www.mindwendel.com

[1] https://github.com/mindwendel/mindwendel

Re: Life after Heroku: What's a dev to do?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels like a bait-and-switch and the "heroin dealer" model to give something away for free just long enough that people become reliant on it, and then suddenly make it be paid.

I think not even drug dealers give away their stuff for free, but if you know one that does do let me know!

It is mainly a thing in open air markets like Kensington in Philly or SF’s Tenderloin.
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