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Re: Odroid-H3

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Post by bravetraveler »

djchen wrote: post #10
bravetraveler wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I own one also, while I do recommend them... I would also recommend some caution if planning to use Linux I'm not sure if this is a common/repeat thing, but for mine I need to maintain a build of the Realtek kernel modules out of tree If I try to use the discovered/automatic/inline driver... it'll drop out if I try to saturate the link. It's only when I blacklist this module and compile/use the one from Realtek that…

What distro and kernel version are you running on there? The Realtek 2.5G NICs should work natively with a recent kernel.

Funny you ask! I just edited this in, realizing it was relevant.

It's quite odd, this is with Fedora -- the current/latest release for about the past year (34 through 36).

It's seen quite a healthy number of 5.x kernels, but every time I try to go without I reluctantly have to build it again

It'll work fine, for a time, but when I really put stress on that link it'll drop

Edit: This is trained at multi-gig too -- going to a 10GbE Mikrotik switch.

I haven't tried testing reliability at 1G -- it's probably better, but I'd like the speed... I still have yet to try a 6.y kernel on it

Re: Odroid-H3

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Post by katmannthree »

capableweb wrote: post #5
StillBored wrote: post #3

Yah, its cool, but as mentioned in the pi thread, there are a pile of these jasper lake nuc's available via large retailers for $100-200, some better some worse, but in most cases they come with ram, storage, case and powersupply for those prices. for example, search for beelink.

Do those come with two ethernet ports, two DDR4 slots (up to 64GB), eMMC, M.2 and two SATA ports? For me, this almost looks like an instant buy.

Generally not all of those. They do come with a case, active cooling, ~~far better graphics performance, and fewer software headaches due to being amd64 instead of aarch64 though~~ nevermind, forgot that this is jasper lake too.

Re: Odroid-H3

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Post by devonkim »

capableweb wrote: post #5
StillBored wrote: post #3

Yah, its cool, but as mentioned in the pi thread, there are a pile of these jasper lake nuc's available via large retailers for $100-200, some better some worse, but in most cases they come with ram, storage, case and powersupply for those prices. for example, search for beelink.

Do those come with two ethernet ports, two DDR4 slots (up to 64GB), eMMC, M.2 and two SATA ports? For me, this almost looks like an instant buy.

Not just gigabit or 100 mbit Ethernet ports either but 2.5 gbps and Realtek at that (ironically people have been complaining more about Intel NICs than Realtek recently but that’s anecdotal still IMO). There’s also other factors like GPIO pins as well. This is a board better suited for relatively higher performance and power efficient embedded projects by far than what most OEMs will produce.

Re: Odroid-H3

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Post by nix0n »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #9

4932 passmark according to this: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?id=4565 That is pretty respectable. But, this is a $165 board, so it seems kind of niche compared to a small PC motherboard at around half the price, unless I'm way out of date.

This isn't just a small motherboard, it includes the CPU also.

Re: Odroid-H3

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Post by pizza234 »

bravetraveler wrote: post #8
pizza234 wrote: post #4

I own an H2, and I strongly suggest them as middle ground between a PC and an (SBC) ARM. One of the main advantages is support, both in terms of applications (some programs may not yet compile on ARM), and kernel (although (some) ARM SBC can run with a stock kernel, it's advices to run a specific kernel to run optimally). The H2 also run impressively cool, and I suppose the H3 does, as well. Note though, that RPis ha…

I own one also, while I do recommend them... I would also recommend some caution if planning to use Linux I'm not sure if this is a common/repeat thing, but for mine I need to maintain a build of the Realtek kernel modules out of tree If I try to use the discovered/automatic/inline driver... it'll drop out if I try to saturate the link. It's only when I blacklist this module and compile/use the one from Realtek that…

Based on the UK reseller, Ubuntu 20.04 supports the ethernet chipset out of the box, while 18.04 doesn't.

I run on an unmodified 18.04 though (kernel v5.4), so I think that the support has been also added in a more recent 18.04 LTS patch version.

Re: Odroid-H3

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Post by aliqot »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #9

4932 passmark according to this: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?id=4565 That is pretty respectable. But, this is a $165 board, so it seems kind of niche compared to a small PC motherboard at around half the price, unless I'm way out of date.

What small pc mobo/chip combos would you recommend at around half the price?

Re: Odroid-H3

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Post by chromatin »

This looks like a great chance to ask:

Besides the ODROID-Hn series, what other single-board computers have dual ethernet? Very few, AFAICT. For router use-case, the alternatives suggested (buy an older NUC, for instance) don't work.

Re: Odroid-H3

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Post by pizza234 »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #9

4932 passmark according to this: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?id=4565 That is pretty respectable. But, this is a $165 board, so it seems kind of niche compared to a small PC motherboard at around half the price, unless I'm way out of date.

In addition to the sibling comment, form factor is an advantage, for those looking for a small machine (Mini ITX != Nano ITX; the H* are actually even smaller than Nano-ITX).

Hardkernel produces several very interesting boxes for H2 (I suppose also for the H3); I think there were 5 or 6 at the time, for different use cases. There was a very small one that fitted two 2.5" SSDs. They're all ugly, low quality, and tedious to assemble, but they're very small and relatively cheap.

Re: Odroid-H3

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Post by easygenes »

chromatin wrote: post #17

This looks like a great chance to ask: Besides the ODROID-Hn series, what other single-board computers have dual ethernet? Very few, AFAICT. For router use-case, the alternatives suggested (buy an older NUC, for instance) don't work.

NanoPi R5S has dual 2.5Gb and a 1Gb. [1]

  1: https://www.friendlyelec.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=287

Re: Odroid-H3

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Post by moffkalast »

heresie-dabord wrote: post #6
pizza234 wrote: post #4

I own an H2, and I strongly suggest them as middle ground between a PC and an (SBC) ARM. One of the main advantages is support, both in terms of applications (some programs may not yet compile on ARM), and kernel (although (some) ARM SBC can run with a stock kernel, it's advices to run a specific kernel to run optimally). The H2 also run impressively cool, and I suppose the H3 does, as well. Note though, that RPis ha…

I was an early adopter of Hardkernel's Odroids, for better (size, performance:cost) and for worse (longevity). This looks like a winner in every way. x86_64 for longevity and support, tested with Ubuntu $latest LTS decent CPU, better than Raspberry Pi RAM up to 64GB, two SO-DIMM slots, up to 32GB per slot M.2 NVMe storage 2 x 2.5Gbit Ethernet ports 2 x SATA 3.0 ports Intel UHD Graphics, HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.2 video outp…

Not only that, but after some digging it seems that the GPIO header is actually not half bad either despite it being somewhat small: https://wiki.odroid.com/_detail/odroid-h3/hardware/h3_24pinm...

Supports i2c, UART, USB, and hopefully manual pin control too. That's already miles ahead of a NUC in terms of interfacing.

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