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What Happened to Hu Jintao?

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Re: What Happened to Hu Jintao?

#11
It is a reminder how opaque Chinese politics is that a former Politburo Standing Committee member can be dragged off stage without comment. Imagine trying to do that to Trump or Obama!

Between purge and medical emergency, a purge of some sort seems more likely since the censors got involved. If it wasn't for show it'd be weird to do it in the middle of the public show too. It'd be a very powerful demonstration if that is what it was intended to be.

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see any videos at all, only black boxes :(

The archive.ph link does not contain any videos. Refer to https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/10/27/world/asia/hu... to access the original article (unlocked).

That's also mostly black boxes for me, in both Firefox and Chrome on Ubuntu, with and without UBO.

Re: What Happened to Hu Jintao?

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The archive.ph link does not contain any videos. Refer to https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/10/27/world/asia/hu... to access the original article (unlocked).

That's also mostly black boxes for me, in both Firefox and Chrome on Ubuntu, with and without UBO.

Works for me, on Firefox and Chrome on Fedora 36, without ad blocking, and Enhanced Tracking Protection enabled on Firefox.

Re: What Happened to Hu Jintao?

#15

I feel bad for young Chinese people who were born after the economy opened up. Can't shake the feeling that the world that they've known is about to be turned upside down, and not for the better. Increasingly hard to go back to business as usual with China. And I'm not even sure Xi wants to go back to business as usual.

Xi has a place on his priority table for the real economy and ordinary folk and those in abject poverty and proper ecological stewardship. Gone are the late nights of celebratory indulgence to excess juicing the spreadsheet numbers in immitative unsustainable businesscult imprinted from the west

Re: What Happened to Hu Jintao?

#16

I feel bad for young Chinese people who were born after the economy opened up. Can't shake the feeling that the world that they've known is about to be turned upside down, and not for the better. Increasingly hard to go back to business as usual with China. And I'm not even sure Xi wants to go back to business as usual.

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Re: What Happened to Hu Jintao?

#17

I feel bad for young Chinese people who were born after the economy opened up. Can't shake the feeling that the world that they've known is about to be turned upside down, and not for the better. Increasingly hard to go back to business as usual with China. And I'm not even sure Xi wants to go back to business as usual.

Xi has a place on his priority table for the real economy and ordinary folk and those in abject poverty and proper ecological stewardship. Gone are the late nights of celebratory indulgence to excess juicing the spreadsheet numbers in immitative unsustainable businesscult imprinted from the west

Riiiiiight

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#18

I feel bad for young Chinese people who were born after the economy opened up. Can't shake the feeling that the world that they've known is about to be turned upside down, and not for the better. Increasingly hard to go back to business as usual with China. And I'm not even sure Xi wants to go back to business as usual.

Xi has a place on his priority table for the real economy and ordinary folk and those in abject poverty and proper ecological stewardship. Gone are the late nights of celebratory indulgence to excess juicing the spreadsheet numbers in immitative unsustainable businesscult imprinted from the west

There is a nuanced point to be made for Xi's alleged concern for the welfare of ordinary folk rather than the elite, but that's not it.

If you're feeling generous toward the world's most powerful autocrat, you can extend the benefit of the doubt that perhaps Xi's policies may turn out to benefit China's poorest and the ecology. But there is no doubt that Xi's anti-vax zero-covid policy has inflicted significant damage to the economy of China's middle class.

Xi has also consolidated political power for himself without setting up any form of succession. He's overseen construction of the most advanced surveillance society that has ever existed. The Chinese people enjoy less freedom now than they did twenty years ago. Maybe history will prove him right, but the historical record for these policies aren't encouraging for China.

Re: What Happened to Hu Jintao?

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I think it's safe to assume that China is now ruled by a totalitarian dictator, even if we haven't yet seen clear actions taken to that effect. There isn't a person in that "Congress" who isn't thinking "that will happen to me if I protest."

Re: What Happened to Hu Jintao?

#20

I feel bad for young Chinese people who were born after the economy opened up. Can't shake the feeling that the world that they've known is about to be turned upside down, and not for the better. Increasingly hard to go back to business as usual with China. And I'm not even sure Xi wants to go back to business as usual.

Xi has a place on his priority table for the real economy and ordinary folk and those in abject poverty and proper ecological stewardship. Gone are the late nights of celebratory indulgence to excess juicing the spreadsheet numbers in immitative unsustainable businesscult imprinted from the west

We must follow strong man! Strong man will save us! Strong men have never overpromised, ever, and always do exactly what they say!
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