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Clinton Urges Countries Not to Restrict Internet

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Re: Clinton Urges Countries Not to Restrict Internet

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It's nice to know the US is trying to fight the worldwide plague of internet censorship and monitoring, DNS spoofing, and unilateral site shutdowns. (cough cough SOPA cough cough DHS cough) Yes sir, freedom of speech, freedom from unreasonable search, and "innocent until proven guilty", that's how we do it in the Land of the Free.

To be fair, it's not so different from the way we operate in every other situation. e.g. championing free and fair elections and decrying other people's failures while passing a seemingly endless stream of poll-tax-esque disenfranchisement legislation here at home, in the name of combating voter fraud problems we've never actually seen manifest. or decrying the "crony capitalism" of Taiwan and then China, while regul…

You forgot torture, executing people with out trial, executing minors and the mentally retarded, holding political prisoners, and using the military against the populace.

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I hope they realize how damaging their own in house legislature like SOPA is damaging to their international efforts. They already look a bit more suspect with SOPA on the table and were it ever to pass they'd have the credibility of China.

Less. China is honest about restricting its people and doesn't try to tell everybody else they're not paying attention to human rights.

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Great news, I guess this means that Wikileaks will be free to receive donations and disseminate news of interest to citizens.

At least now we know the real reasons the US wants to restrict internet access, it's not copyright as we had long suspected but to "threaten basic freedoms and human rights and also international commerce and the free flow of information."

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It's nice to know the US is trying to fight the worldwide plague of internet censorship and monitoring, DNS spoofing, and unilateral site shutdowns. (cough cough SOPA cough cough DHS cough) Yes sir, freedom of speech, freedom from unreasonable search, and "innocent until proven guilty", that's how we do it in the Land of the Free.

To be fair, it's not so different from the way we operate in every other situation. e.g. championing free and fair elections and decrying other people's failures while passing a seemingly endless stream of poll-tax-esque disenfranchisement legislation here at home, in the name of combating voter fraud problems we've never actually seen manifest. or decrying the "crony capitalism" of Taiwan and then China, while regul…

I find it interesting that line three of your post decries regulatory capture, while line four decries deregulation. I think it points to how much of a problem we actually have - we don't want complete deregulation, but the regulations we do end up getting often end up just making it worse. It's pretty disheartening.

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Moral Relativism is nothing new.

Reminds me of the quote by Orwell: All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage — torture, the use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians — which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by 'our' side.

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It's nice to know the US is trying to fight the worldwide plague of internet censorship and monitoring, DNS spoofing, and unilateral site shutdowns. (cough cough SOPA cough cough DHS cough) Yes sir, freedom of speech, freedom from unreasonable search, and "innocent until proven guilty", that's how we do it in the Land of the Free.

To be fair, it's not so different from the way we operate in every other situation. e.g. championing free and fair elections and decrying other people's failures while passing a seemingly endless stream of poll-tax-esque disenfranchisement legislation here at home, in the name of combating voter fraud problems we've never actually seen manifest. or decrying the "crony capitalism" of Taiwan and then China, while regul…

or lionizing protesters in Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, etc as freedom fighters while marginalizing domestic protesters as quasi-criminal homeless hippies.
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