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Vasa's sister ship Äpplet found
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#12I must resist asking if it used Java. I would love to see the Vasa but have not made it to Stockholm yet. I did see the Mary Rose in Portsmouth which was incredibly fascinating to see (large portions of the ship remain so you can see the layout). Mary Rose is from the century prior to Vasa and Äpplet.
Visited both. Mary Rose is well presented with all the extracted findings in their own galleries. But visiting Vasa is much better experience, it's intact, you're so close etc.
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#13> The ship's designer was Hein Jakobsson, the same master shipbuilder who completed Vasa. He realized that Vasa had the wrong proportions even before she was launched, which could lead to instability. And indeed, she tipped, foundered and sank on her maiden voyage. > The Apple was therefore built wider than the Vasa, but despite this, the ship was not successful... Being a "master shipbuilder" in those days was appar…
And the proportions of Vasa were wrong only because the king got to participate in and drive the design process.
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#14If you find this interesting, you might like learning about the Goethenborg, which you can even volunteer and sail on.
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#15The naming of the first ship is obvious: Vasa was the royal house of Sweden. But why did the king decide to call the second ship "The Apple"? Did he like his Macintosh so much?
It's tradition in the Swedish navy to give the largest and mightiest ships name from the Swedish royal regalia. But sure doesn't sound intimidating.
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#16I wonder if a statue of Paavo Nurmi will be on the deck.
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#17> The ship's designer was Hein Jakobsson, the same master shipbuilder who completed Vasa. He realized that Vasa had the wrong proportions even before she was launched, which could lead to instability. And indeed, she tipped, foundered and sank on her maiden voyage. > The Apple was therefore built wider than the Vasa, but despite this, the ship was not successful... Being a "master shipbuilder" in those days was appar…
Hein Jakobsson completed Vasa, but wasn't the original designer. That was Henrik Hybertsson. Jakobsson widened Vasa somewhat to try to improve it, and Äpplet was even wider.
Äpplet was in use for almost 30 years, and was deliberately sunk.
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#18The naming of the first ship is obvious: Vasa was the royal house of Sweden. But why did the king decide to call the second ship "The Apple"? Did he like his Macintosh so much?
Tangentially, there is an interesting connection between Scandanavia and the Mac: the command key symbol, AKA Saint John's Arms (among others). When I've visited Sweden, it's all over the countryside, on signs marking places of interest.
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#19I must resist asking if it used Java. I would love to see the Vasa but have not made it to Stockholm yet. I did see the Mary Rose in Portsmouth which was incredibly fascinating to see (large portions of the ship remain so you can see the layout). Mary Rose is from the century prior to Vasa and Äpplet.
Visited both. Mary Rose is well presented with all the extracted findings in their own galleries. But visiting Vasa is much better experience, it's intact, you're so close etc.
Have you been to the Mary Rose recently? I read about the changes since I was there around 2000. I remember the spraying and thinking it would take forever for that process to be finished. Interesting to be on that other side of forever and see visitors can see the boat without the spraying chamber in place.
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#20> The ship's designer was Hein Jakobsson, the same master shipbuilder who completed Vasa. He realized that Vasa had the wrong proportions even before she was launched, which could lead to instability. And indeed, she tipped, foundered and sank on her maiden voyage. > The Apple was therefore built wider than the Vasa, but despite this, the ship was not successful... Being a "master shipbuilder" in those days was appar…
And the proportions of Vasa were wrong only because the king got to participate in and drive the design process.
In fact being a master shipbuilder in 1612 was very similar to being a master software architect in 2022.