It makes sense. The Mac Mini is what you get if you want to make a Mac or iOS app, but you want to keep your Windows or Linux system for daily use.
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#12I want to install Linux on one of these and use it as a low power consumption home server.
From what MS says you cannot do it out of the box.
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#13They should give them away. I’d never spend $600 on any kind of windows product. Maybe we can install linux on it? But you’d have to be smoking crack not to buy a mac mini m1. It’s the best computer I ever used hands down
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#14"Microsoft tells Windows Central that the Windows Dev Kit 2023 is exclusive to Windows 11, with no official support for running other operating systems such as Linux or even Windows 10 on ARM. The product is designed for developers looking to optimize their apps for ARM on top of Windows 11."
The word _official_ is italicized[1], and the words "the product is _designed for_" means there may be hope that this is possible.
1. https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/proj...
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#16All that effort and the best ARM Windows development machine is still "a VM on an Apple Silicon Mac".
Is this actually true? How is Visual Studio in parallels or crossover?
Technically, yes. If you look at the benchmarks, a VM of Windows on an M1 (base model) is significantly faster than both the SQ1 / 8cx Gen 1 and SQ2 / 8cx Gen 2 processors Microsoft included with the Surface Pro X (by like, 30%, it's not even close), though how it compares to 8cx Gen 3 / SQ3 is unknown. However, considering we're on M2 by now, and that we now have M1 Pro and M1 Ultra models as well... egh...
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#17I want to install Linux on one of these and use it as a low power consumption home server.
Same here - with 32GB of RAM I could easily replace my main home server (which runs NixOS, so I can easily just rebuild the system for aarch64). I wonder how quickly people will get Linux running on these...
The M1 can run Asahi Linux, which I imagine is going to outperform this. https://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-8cx-gen-3-intel-...
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#18All that effort and the best ARM Windows development machine is still "a VM on an Apple Silicon Mac".
How much development experience targeting windows on arm do you have?
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#19"Microsoft tells Windows Central that the Windows Dev Kit 2023 is exclusive to Windows 11, with no official support for running other operating systems such as Linux or even Windows 10 on ARM. The product is designed for developers looking to optimize their apps for ARM on top of Windows 11."
The word _official_ is italicized[1], and the words "the product is _designed for_" means there may be hope that this is possible. 1. https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/proj...
UEFI Secure Boot can be disabled or put in a custom configuration on all arm64 Windows devices, including Windows Dev Kit 2023.
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#20Could this be the harbinger of a return to Windows Phone? The world sorely needs an alternative to the mobile OS duopoly.
I'd argue that Microsoft entering the mobile OS market is worse than having a duopoly