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Apple Raises Prices on Apple Music, Apple TV Plus, and Apple One

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Re: Apple Raises Prices on Apple Music, Apple TV Plus, and Apple One

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Post by willio58 »

regular wrote: post #9
juve1996 wrote: post #4

I adopted Apple Music pretty early in its life and actually liked it in the beginning. But I've noticed the quality is deteriorating. The UX is slow. It takes 5 seconds to add a song to my library now. Half the time images don't load - so I have a bunch of black squares with words underneath. Sometimes music just doesn't play. 5G/4G handoffs confuse it, forcing me to force quit and restart. The shuffle/repeat options…

The (desktop) Music app suffers from such stupid UI omissions that I hate rewarding it with money. Example: You discover a "radio" show you like because it is suggested on the Browse page. Well, there's no way to save that. There's no way to bookmark it. You seriously have to essentially WRITE IT DOWN if you want to come back to a show later. WTF? Or you're on the Browse page and you play something. There's no indica…

This is why I switched to Spotify 3+ years ago and I'm sad to hear nothing has changed. I was on Apple Music prior for years and it just seemed so stagnant features-wise.

Apple needs to apply the Safari treatment to Apple Music and create a dedicated team that regularly releases updates detached from OS updates. This team needs to have a strong UX lead associated.

I agree with your reaction of dumb UI omissions. Spotify isn't perfect by any means, but they are doing a better job at looking at how people expect the app to work and responding to those needs with features.

Re: Apple Raises Prices on Apple Music, Apple TV Plus, and Apple One

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Post by slipheen »

juve1996 wrote: post #4

I adopted Apple Music pretty early in its life and actually liked it in the beginning. But I've noticed the quality is deteriorating. The UX is slow. It takes 5 seconds to add a song to my library now. Half the time images don't load - so I have a bunch of black squares with words underneath. Sometimes music just doesn't play. 5G/4G handoffs confuse it, forcing me to force quit and restart. The shuffle/repeat options…

I don't know if it's your style, but I've rather enjoyed using https://cider.sh/ as an alternative interface

Re: Apple Raises Prices on Apple Music, Apple TV Plus, and Apple One

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Post by yftsui »

juve1996 wrote: post #4

I adopted Apple Music pretty early in its life and actually liked it in the beginning. But I've noticed the quality is deteriorating. The UX is slow. It takes 5 seconds to add a song to my library now. Half the time images don't load - so I have a bunch of black squares with words underneath. Sometimes music just doesn't play. 5G/4G handoffs confuse it, forcing me to force quit and restart. The shuffle/repeat options…

Apple Music seems always assumes you have good network connectivity.

There was one year I upgraded my phone's iOS at work (probably 2016 or 2017), when heading home that night, the Music app no longer loads but a blank screen, even I have all the iTunes music on device locally.

Later I found that first load of that upgraded Music app has an Apple Music pop up for "free trial", that requires data connection, which my company's garage happen to be a cellular dead spot. Before you dismiss that offer, you cannot even use the Music app.

Re: Apple Raises Prices on Apple Music, Apple TV Plus, and Apple One

#14

Post by frosted-flakes »

hot_gril wrote: post #8
arthurcolle wrote: post #2

Their upselling techniques are so annoying, I deliberately cut all Apple subscriptions a few months ago and they still pop things up every day telling me to resubscribe to iCloud Pro Plus nonsense. Idk who they think needs or wants any of this trash but I am fairly certain I can come up with an arbitrary number of things I want in life that are not more useless software subscriptions from an entity that has been extr…

I have a local music library, and it's annoying how everything I use has been shoved into a small part of the UI on the iPhone. Plus it occasionally pops up asking me to subscribe to Apple Music. I just don't need it. I discover new music through YouTube usually. But iTunes/Music has supported that library since 2003 for me, so I trust it. 19 years, that's like 19 Google service lifespans! Even most software hasn't l…

There's a toggle in Settings to disable most of the Apple Music features in Music. The Radio section (whatever it is, I don't know) still shows, but everything else is hidden, and I never received any advertising popups with that toggled.

Re: Apple Raises Prices on Apple Music, Apple TV Plus, and Apple One

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Post by regular »

willio58 wrote: post #11
regular wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The (desktop) Music app suffers from such stupid UI omissions that I hate rewarding it with money. Example: You discover a "radio" show you like because it is suggested on the Browse page. Well, there's no way to save that. There's no way to bookmark it. You seriously have to essentially WRITE IT DOWN if you want to come back to a show later. WTF? Or you're on the Browse page and you play something. There's no indica…

This is why I switched to Spotify 3+ years ago and I'm sad to hear nothing has changed. I was on Apple Music prior for years and it just seemed so stagnant features-wise. Apple needs to apply the Safari treatment to Apple Music and create a dedicated team that regularly releases updates detached from OS updates. This team needs to have a strong UX lead associated. I agree with your reaction of dumb UI omissions. Spot…

The fact is that Music is still iTunes, a terrible jukebox app that Apple bought.

For years after iTunes launched, you could be listening to Internet radio (REAL Internet radio, not Apple's BS "radio"), and there'd be artist and song metadata displayed in iTunes. But could you click on that and say "buy song from iTunes?" NO. I mean... WTF, I wanted to spend money on iTunes but Apple didn't allow that.

To my knowledge that was NEVER fixed. Incredible.

Re: Apple Raises Prices on Apple Music, Apple TV Plus, and Apple One

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Post by jlokier »

Watch out if you have uploaded a music collection to Apple Music and are thinking of cancelling the service. Someone had a bad experience recently:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33309161

Last week I cancelled Apple Music. I found that my previously large music collection, which I had before joining Apple Music and its convenient web upload, was in tatters. Most albums were gone, and of the few ones still there, many had missing songs. Is that progress? Luckily I found the missing music as part of the backup of a laptop I decommissioned in 2016.

Re: Apple Raises Prices on Apple Music, Apple TV Plus, and Apple One

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Post by hot_gril »

frosted-flakes wrote: post #14
hot_gril wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a local music library, and it's annoying how everything I use has been shoved into a small part of the UI on the iPhone. Plus it occasionally pops up asking me to subscribe to Apple Music. I just don't need it. I discover new music through YouTube usually. But iTunes/Music has supported that library since 2003 for me, so I trust it. 19 years, that's like 19 Google service lifespans! Even most software hasn't l…

There's a toggle in Settings to disable most of the Apple Music features in Music. The Radio section (whatever it is, I don't know) still shows, but everything else is hidden, and I never received any advertising popups with that toggled.

Yeah, that helps, but overall the Music app is worse for me than it was in the iPhone 3GS days when it was centered around iPod features. Not a big deal.

Re: Apple Raises Prices on Apple Music, Apple TV Plus, and Apple One

#18

Post by Rebelgecko »

juve1996 wrote: post #4

I adopted Apple Music pretty early in its life and actually liked it in the beginning. But I've noticed the quality is deteriorating. The UX is slow. It takes 5 seconds to add a song to my library now. Half the time images don't load - so I have a bunch of black squares with words underneath. Sometimes music just doesn't play. 5G/4G handoffs confuse it, forcing me to force quit and restart. The shuffle/repeat options…

My favorite part of the Apple Music UX is that if you're connected to a wifi network that doesn't have internet, some UI actions like playing or skipping a song are delayed by 60 seconds until whatever network operation the app is trying times out (at least on the Android app)

Re: Apple Raises Prices on Apple Music, Apple TV Plus, and Apple One

#19

Post by fxtentacle »

I jumped ship off Apple Music when I noticed that songs would just silently disappear from my library. I've heard it's gotten even worse now that the streaming wars are on.

Probably Apple has to increase prices because there's so few paying users left.

Re: Apple Raises Prices on Apple Music, Apple TV Plus, and Apple One

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Post by arthurcolle »

hot_gril wrote: post #17
frosted-flakes wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a toggle in Settings to disable most of the Apple Music features in Music. The Radio section (whatever it is, I don't know) still shows, but everything else is hidden, and I never received any advertising popups with that toggled.

Yeah, that helps, but overall the Music app is worse for me than it was in the iPhone 3GS days when it was centered around iPod features. Not a big deal.

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