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Apple's sleeping advertising business

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Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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> Apple's advertising business will layer on top of all Apple's existing products and have extremely high margins

Afaik increased competition reduces margins. And this only applies to the US (Apple is a minority everywhere else). Even if they think they got the 'premium' consumers locked, their reach is small for ad campaigns

Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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That Apple could do it doesn’t mean they will, and the article doesn’t present much actual evidence it will. In Apple long-running saga with Ads it’s always seemed like Apple hates ads because it’s other companies content (and so priorities, aesthetic, and feel) jammed inside an Apple product. And Apple hates anything that ruins the Apple Experience :tm: Paying to be the first App Store entry is great, because it’s A…

> Paying to be the first App Store entry is great, because it’s Apple showing off the normal Apple content (an app card) within a search list of app cards.

The most lucrative ad-supported site in the world (Google search) also shows normal-looking paid content at the top of a list of search results. Apple doesn't need to accept ugly banner ads to build an enormous ad business.

Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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post #11

> Apple's advertising business will layer on top of all Apple's existing products and have extremely high margins Afaik increased competition reduces margins. And this only applies to the US (Apple is a minority everywhere else). Even if they think they got the 'premium' consumers locked, their reach is small for ad campaigns

One point the article makes is that Apple's strategy around privacy allows it to eliminate competition for its ad business.

> Apple first spent years telling us how much it respects consumer privacy... In the name of consumer privacy, it was able to box out competitors from using its first party device data, giving itself exclusive access to better target ads

Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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Apple adding ads to the AppStore was a terrible idea. Not because I hate seeing ads, but as a developer I hate it.

I’ve made some apps that have had millions of downloads that I launched with no ad spend whatsoever, just good old fashioned viral growth. It got a tonne of copycats but that was OK because I just made the app better in response.

Now, your app is competing against all the inevitable copycats - but those copycats can now just outspend you on ads. They no longer have to make a better product, just have a bigger budget. People are lazy and download the first result a lot of the time.

AppStore search is famously awful enough as it is, ads make it even worse.

Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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I will do everything I can to see no ads (paying is Okay, but Apple products already cost quite a lot so asking for more money would look like a paid toilet in an expensive restaurant) and will just leave the platform whatever I was using as soon as it insists I watch ads and leaves no escape hatches. The only kind of ads I don't mind are outdoor billboards.

Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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I'm out if this happens.

to where though?

AOSP-derived Android distributions running on well-supported hardware, the same route taken by those who want to escape Google. Get your software from places like F-Droid, don't install spyware from the likes of Google/Metafacebook/Microsoft/Apple/etc, run your own services on your own hardware where possible or hitch a ride on some friend or family member's services. This works, it offers all the useable bells and whistles you might want without having your data mined by parasites.

No ads.

Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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Apple adding ads to the AppStore was a terrible idea. Not because I hate seeing ads, but as a developer I hate it. I’ve made some apps that have had millions of downloads that I launched with no ad spend whatsoever, just good old fashioned viral growth. It got a tonne of copycats but that was OK because I just made the app better in response. Now, your app is competing against all the inevitable copycats - but those…

It's also a lousy user experience since the bogus ad app shows up at the top of the page and eats up screen space, especially on a phone.

> People are lazy and download the first result a lot of the time.

If people need something right away, they're unlikely to want to spend time evaluating a bunch of alternatives.

Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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> Apple's advertising business will layer on top of all Apple's existing products and have extremely high margins Afaik increased competition reduces margins. And this only applies to the US (Apple is a minority everywhere else). Even if they think they got the 'premium' consumers locked, their reach is small for ad campaigns

One point the article makes is that Apple's strategy around privacy allows it to eliminate competition for its ad business. > Apple first spent years telling us how much it respects consumer privacy... In the name of consumer privacy, it was able to box out competitors from using its first party device data, giving itself exclusive access to better target ads

... in its own devices

it would also be schizophrenic if apple didn't have to abide by the rules it proudly imposes on others

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