For those who don't know, Pure Data or PD is a visual audio programming language that can be used to develop software synthesizers. It's open source, the commercial version by the same creator is called MAX-MSP.
Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
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Re: Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
#12I'm going to ask the dumb question here - how is this at the top with zero discussion? If I need to get dunked for asking that's fine, but I don't understand, since HackerNews is suppose to be a place for high quality discussion on tech.
This plugin could potentially be a big deal. PureData has been around for decades but fell behind Max and/or MaxMSP mostly (IMO) due to usability limitations. If more people will be able to incorporate PureData organically into their workflow, it could create a real alternative to Max4Live in DAWs other than Live. I could fantasize even further. A PureData plug-in could kickstart a VCVRack type effort - an open sourc…
You can get close to this VCVRack idea by combining automatonism with PlugData
Re: Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
#13I'm going to ask the dumb question here - how is this at the top with zero discussion? If I need to get dunked for asking that's fine, but I don't understand, since HackerNews is suppose to be a place for high quality discussion on tech.
Good q! I’m an audio dev who thought the general community might appreciate the project. It’s a cool effort (my primary beef with pd was always the UI)
Re: Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
#14I'm going to ask the dumb question here - how is this at the top with zero discussion? If I need to get dunked for asking that's fine, but I don't understand, since HackerNews is suppose to be a place for high quality discussion on tech.
PD is pretty popular and also has the distinction of being first-of-its-kind in many respects, so a major UX overhaul would automatically attract approval. Also the front page on HN is a lot less 'competitive' on the weekends.
Re: Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
#15Tangential, but I was surprised at how clean the project structure is, considering that the last time I used JUCE, it imposed a messy and annoying (IMO) project structure based on its own build tool. Turns out I missed the news from a couple of years ago, and you can now use CMake and include JUCE in a project as a "library" rather than an all-encompassing "framework": https://forum.juce.com/t/native-built-in-cmake-support-in-ju...
With that said, my Pure Data is very rusty but this seems like a great excuse to get back into it.
Re: Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
#16I have a large collection audio plug-ins, but mainly for effects. While I would assume Pure Data can do effects I haven’t seen that capability pushed. So, does anyone know of good resources for learning Pure Data, not just in the context of effects, but for creating synths or anything else as well?
Re: Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
#17I have a large collection audio plug-ins, but mainly for effects. While I would assume Pure Data can do effects I haven’t seen that capability pushed. So, does anyone know of good resources for learning Pure Data, not just in the context of effects, but for creating synths or anything else as well?
Genuinely just google whatever effect you want with “pure data”. E.g. “delay patch pure data” and you’ll find lots and lots of resources. If you want something deeper look for more generalized DSP tutorials in PD
Re: Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
#18For those who don't know, Pure Data or PD is a visual audio programming language that can be used to develop software synthesizers. It's open source, the commercial version by the same creator is called MAX-MSP.
To be honest, I've spent many hours in PD and Max and didn't realize that Miller Puckette was behind both. Super cool!
Next week, I travel to Bali to focus on developing a data flow based visual music synth. I can't understate how big an influence that Puckette's work has been on my thinking.
Re: Pure Data as a plugin, with a new GUI
#19I'm going to ask the dumb question here - how is this at the top with zero discussion? If I need to get dunked for asking that's fine, but I don't understand, since HackerNews is suppose to be a place for high quality discussion on tech.
It often takes a while for comments to start showing up. That can be a good sign, actually—interesting reactions often take a while, since processing information takes time. Quick reflexive responses are often a bit mechanical/predictable.
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This plugin could potentially be a big deal. PureData has been around for decades but fell behind Max and/or MaxMSP mostly (IMO) due to usability limitations. If more people will be able to incorporate PureData organically into their workflow, it could create a real alternative to Max4Live in DAWs other than Live. I could fantasize even further. A PureData plug-in could kickstart a VCVRack type effort - an open sourc…
You can get close to this VCVRack idea by combining automatonism with PlugData
I had a look at automationism, but don't really like how it imposes the CV concept in an environment where it doesn't make much sense (to me) - but is still fun to fiddle with. I came across a toolkit[1] yesterday which is similar but doesn't impose analogue concepts on the workflow in the same manner. Also not as polished in the GUI sense either mind you, but the guy who wrote it makes really good occasional pd tutorials on youtube as well[2]
[1] https://github.com/algomusic/Live-Coding-Toolkit-for-Pure-Da... [2] https://www.youtube.com/user/QCGInteractiveMusic