5 Years of Pop _OS • Hacker News Board

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by arthurcolle » Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 2:22 AM UTC

acidburnNSA wrote: post #10

atomicnumber3 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had one of their systems, a gazelle professional 4 if I recall right, it must've been around, oh say, 2013? And it was quite a nice machine, great linux compat, the 4-core i7 in it performed quite well and it let me load it up with RAM. It wasn't too heavy or anything and I liked the display. But the battery life. Good lord. 45 minutes, 55 if I messed and fussed with power settings and such. Basically gaming-laptop…

I am on a Lemur Pro from them, and it gets 14 hours of battery life.

That's amazing. Are you for real?

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by giancarlostoro » Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 2:22 AM UTC

nu11ptr wrote: post #6

I really like Pop Os. I've always liked Debian descended distros, and prior to this I was using Ubuntu. While I like it, I always found a lot of rough edges esp. when it came to proprietary drivers, etc. where things didn't always work without some tweaking. Pop Os on the other hand seems to "just work" - it is like a polished version of Ubuntu with a nice selection of apps in the Pop Shop. Theme is pretty nice as we…

I'm always looking for a "developer" distro, and POP_OS! feels to be the only one that fits that niche for me.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by JoBrad » Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 2:24 AM UTC

agundy wrote: post #3

It sounds like they are taking a big bet on rewriting large components of the OS custom for Pop OS in Rust. I wish them the best but it sounds like a big commitment and I’m holding my breath for them to succeed. I’m curious how System76 sees Pop_OS fitting into their business model which is primarily hardware.

Apple found business value in providing an OS that worked well with their hardware. I imagine the System 76 team see similar value. I recently installed it on an old ThinkCentre, and have been very pleased with it.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by acidburnNSA » Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 2:25 AM UTC

arthurcolle wrote: post #11

acidburnNSA wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am on a Lemur Pro from them, and it gets 14 hours of battery life.

That's amazing. Are you for real?

Yeah, I find it's totally as advertised. Charged it up for a flight last week. Worked the whole time. Turned it on in the hotel afterwards and it had 70% left.

https://system76.com/laptops/lemur

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by inetknght » Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 2:26 AM UTC

I have a Serval WS with Pop OS! using Cinnamon. Battery life sucks (~40 minutes) if I forget to turn off the discrete GPU. But without the discrete GPU, the battery life... still sucks at about 4 hours. Not bad for desktop-class hardware in a laptop form factor.

I had a loaner laptop briefly when the screen went out. Loaner laptop battery lasted all day. I don't remember the model though

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by tomschlick » Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 2:26 AM UTC

stingraycharles wrote: post #8

agundy wrote: post #3

It sounds like they are taking a big bet on rewriting large components of the OS custom for Pop OS in Rust. I wish them the best but it sounds like a big commitment and I’m holding my breath for them to succeed. I’m curious how System76 sees Pop_OS fitting into their business model which is primarily hardware.

Yeah I never understood why they are spending so much time on this. Seems like they would be better off improving the hardware offering, or just making generic integrations which work on any Linux distribution?

> or just making generic integrations which work on any Linux distribution

Thats how you make something that doesnt look good or function that well because you're focusing on too much.

They are taking the Apple path with linux. Make the hardware and make the software tailored for the hardware for a great experience. Yes they support people installing on stuff other than their hardware, but they make sure their hardware is supported and runs well.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by zdragnar » Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 2:33 AM UTC

arthurcolle wrote: post #11

acidburnNSA wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am on a Lemur Pro from them, and it gets 14 hours of battery life.

That's amazing. Are you for real?

Each of their lines are geared towards a specific market. The Lemur is the "portable" model, where weight and battery life are the top priority. They do also emphasize that it is a capable device in its own right, but it has a slightly smaller screen and lower max specs than the more powerful lines (14", up to 40gb ram vs 64 for others).

I wouldn't doubt that the claims are real; I can easily go a whole day of programming without needing a recharge on my lg gram, which was likewise advertised as having oodles of hours. If I'm careful with my usage, I could easily push 16. As it is, I've got two instances of chrome (different profiles), three instances of VS code, a server running, docker and postgres in the background, sitting at around 48% battery remaining and I haven't plugged in to charge in about 8 hours or so.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by qbasic_forever » Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 2:36 AM UTC

nu11ptr wrote: post #6

I really like Pop Os. I've always liked Debian descended distros, and prior to this I was using Ubuntu. While I like it, I always found a lot of rough edges esp. when it came to proprietary drivers, etc. where things didn't always work without some tweaking. Pop Os on the other hand seems to "just work" - it is like a polished version of Ubuntu with a nice selection of apps in the Pop Shop. Theme is pretty nice as we…

Yep I've had the exact same experience. I love that pop is setup out of the box to work well with flatpaks and flathub too--I rarely have to mess with out of date debs, the pain of snaps, etc. The gnome extensions they pack in for tiling windows, adding desktop icons, are fantastic too. It just works.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by listic » Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 2:43 AM UTC

chatterhead wrote: post #4

Congrats! Pop_OS rebuilt in Rust?? Sounds pretty sweet. Really wish I had enough money for a System76 PC. Go on there at least 10 times a year and build out a PC or two just to dream... Sorry for abandoning my cart with ridiculous PC specs built for one of those hoodie wearing hackers in media photos. Edit: I'm posting too fast so for the person commenting on what boards they use... https://tech-docs.system76.com - h…

Are their desktop PCs built around standard boards? I presume their 'Thelio' is Mini-ITX form factor?

It sounds condescending of them to omit the exact model names of their hardware in their 'tech specs' section. I, for one, would like to know what exact model of motherboard I would be getting when I choose 'AMD' or 'Intel Advanced' in the 'Platform' section. Same goes for RAM, SSD, etc.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by jrm4 » Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 2:44 AM UTC

stingraycharles wrote: post #8

agundy wrote: post #3

It sounds like they are taking a big bet on rewriting large components of the OS custom for Pop OS in Rust. I wish them the best but it sounds like a big commitment and I’m holding my breath for them to succeed. I’m curious how System76 sees Pop_OS fitting into their business model which is primarily hardware.

Yeah I never understood why they are spending so much time on this. Seems like they would be better off improving the hardware offering, or just making generic integrations which work on any Linux distribution?

I mean, sounds WAY better than whatever the heck the Ubuntu people think they're doing these days. Which -- whatever it is, does emphatically not appear to be "making a good and usable desktop."