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Beyond the Raw/Pasteurised Divide

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Re: Beyond the Raw/Pasteurised Divide

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If you don't want to drink raw milk but would like to enjoy a fresher, more plain milk taste, I strongly recommend whole microfiltred milk.

I don't know if it's available everywhere, but it's a process that is legal in France as an alternative to pasteurization, and it preserves some of the milk original qualities, albeit not all of them.

Re: Beyond the Raw/Pasteurised Divide

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My kids have been raised on organic raw grass-fed milk widely available in California. Also, our eggs are never refrigerated - we buy them from farmers' market and they say out even in the hottest summer days - no issues so far and they don't wanna drink any other milk! The best thing abour raw milk is that it's naturally homogenized and they drink true whole milk without any complaints!

Re: Beyond the Raw/Pasteurised Divide

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The microbiology of milk and milk products in certainly complex and 'raw vs. pasteurized' is an oversimplification, but practically, most people look at milk and cheese with "is this safe and healthy to consume" in mind. So when the author says this, it avoids that question. > "There are many factors influencing this ecology which I will refrain from getting into further in this piece (teat treatment, animal bedding,…

I have a personal, non proven, theory about Salmonella. I think it used to be a in a lot of food, but we didn't care most of the time as we were used to it. With things getting cleaner, we got sensitive to it, and it's now a problem because our immune system can't fight it as well and people get very sick out of it. I remember we used to get eggs from an old lady in my mothers village when I was a kid. Dirty eggs, fu…

The eggs could have been marinaded in salmonella but if you cooked them (which you did?) they'd be sterile and safe afterwards. So maybe a coincidence or something.

Re: Beyond the Raw/Pasteurised Divide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a personal, non proven, theory about Salmonella. I think it used to be a in a lot of food, but we didn't care most of the time as we were used to it. With things getting cleaner, we got sensitive to it, and it's now a problem because our immune system can't fight it as well and people get very sick out of it. I remember we used to get eggs from an old lady in my mothers village when I was a kid. Dirty eggs, fu…

The eggs could have been marinaded in salmonella but if you cooked them (which you did?) they'd be sterile and safe afterwards. So maybe a coincidence or something.

Yet the USA bleach their eggs so I assume there is a risk a contamination somewhere.

But yes, it is all anecdotal.

Re: Beyond the Raw/Pasteurised Divide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The eggs could have been marinaded in salmonella but if you cooked them (which you did?) they'd be sterile and safe afterwards. So maybe a coincidence or something.

Yet the USA bleach their eggs so I assume there is a risk a contamination somewhere. But yes, it is all anecdotal.

Don't knock it, it's still useful evidence even if just one data point. I don't like the HN habit of pinning anecdotal on things just so as to dismiss them.

Re: Beyond the Raw/Pasteurised Divide

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post #12

My kids have been raised on organic raw grass-fed milk widely available in California. Also, our eggs are never refrigerated - we buy them from farmers' market and they say out even in the hottest summer days - no issues so far and they don't wanna drink any other milk! The best thing abour raw milk is that it's naturally homogenized and they drink true whole milk without any complaints!

Been drinking raw milk for years. Also noticed that some lactose intolerant people are able to consume raw milk without any issues. People have been drinking raw milk from various mammals for eons. The risk associated with it is when dairy farmers don't use hygienic practices or make mistakes. When mass producing milk at scale, hygienic practices eats up time and money, so pasteurization provides a blanket solution to not having to waste time being too careful or worrying about making a hygienic mistake.
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