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Re: The Wikimedia Foundation spends Wikipedia donations on political activism

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This is a problem across charities it seems - political activism is not necessarily bad, but when it's all generic woke stuff that has nothing to do with the charity's mission, it becomes really frustrating. The ACLU is another obvious example (as is Canada's equivalent the CCLA that I stopped supporting). But even a hospital I used to support has gotten into the business of pronouns and stuff, and regardless of the…

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Re: The Wikimedia Foundation spends Wikipedia donations on political activism

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Most people would agree that something like feeding starving babies is a worthy apolitical cause. But few that are donating to an online encyclopedia foundation would want their money to be redirected to babies. Otherwise they would have given that directly. That's what I see as the core issue here, rather than the minutia of whether some particular charity money went to is an ok cause

Re: The Wikimedia Foundation spends Wikipedia donations on political activism

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post #7

This is a problem across charities it seems - political activism is not necessarily bad, but when it's all generic woke stuff that has nothing to do with the charity's mission, it becomes really frustrating. The ACLU is another obvious example (as is Canada's equivalent the CCLA that I stopped supporting). But even a hospital I used to support has gotten into the business of pronouns and stuff, and regardless of the…

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”Woke” is a flawed term for a sprawling movement, but the best I’ve read on it is Wesley Yang's framework of successor ideology. As it would happen, Wikipedia actually has a pretty good overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Successor_ideology

Re: The Wikimedia Foundation spends Wikipedia donations on political activism

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The Twitter thread devolves into various random citations of "wokeism", and that's all fine and well for those who care to argue such examples on Twitter. But even aside from the culture war quagmire, the first few tweets in the thread are fascinating. Wikipedia is up to 400+ employees now? It's spending grew from $10 million in 2010, to $112 million in 2020? The actual website costs are only $2-3 million per year, a…

I agree. I wish the thread had stopped two or three tweets in. The random right-wing "culture war" ramblings are not cool and they detract from the important message that Wikipedia has solved the problem it was aiming to solve and is now hopelessly lost as an organization.

In what sense? Since this is a culture war adherent spouting this stuff, how can you take any of it at face value?

Re: The Wikimedia Foundation spends Wikipedia donations on political activism

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The original twitter thread references Wikimedia’s explicit support and advocacy for intersectional ideology. That is far more than “donating to orgs that support diversity in science” in terms of taking sides in the culture war. There is no ability to claim neutrality after taking that position.

Re: The Wikimedia Foundation spends Wikipedia donations on political activism

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OK, look, the Twitter thread is gobbledygook. If people really care about non-profit governance, there's a website for that called Charity Navigator which actually rates the charity according to essentially how much donations actually serve the mission. Wikimedia gets the top rating.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/200049703

Re: The Wikimedia Foundation spends Wikipedia donations on political activism

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post #10

The Twitter thread devolves into various random citations of "wokeism", and that's all fine and well for those who care to argue such examples on Twitter. But even aside from the culture war quagmire, the first few tweets in the thread are fascinating. Wikipedia is up to 400+ employees now? It's spending grew from $10 million in 2010, to $112 million in 2020? The actual website costs are only $2-3 million per year, a…

I agree. I wish the thread had stopped two or three tweets in. The random right-wing "culture war" ramblings are not cool and they detract from the important message that Wikipedia has solved the problem it was aiming to solve and is now hopelessly lost as an organization.

> Wikipedia has solved the problem it was aiming to solve

"A world where every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge" - that's quite far from being a "solved" problem.

Re: The Wikimedia Foundation spends Wikipedia donations on political activism

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This is a problem across charities it seems - political activism is not necessarily bad, but when it's all generic woke stuff that has nothing to do with the charity's mission, it becomes really frustrating. The ACLU is another obvious example (as is Canada's equivalent the CCLA that I stopped supporting). But even a hospital I used to support has gotten into the business of pronouns and stuff, and regardless of the…

I work at a nonprofit that is all in on pronoun affirmation. It doesn't mean we've spent a millions of donor funds on pronoun consultants, we just added a field on our active directory. Employees demanded it.

Re: The Wikimedia Foundation spends Wikipedia donations on political activism

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The Twitter thread devolves into various random citations of "wokeism", and that's all fine and well for those who care to argue such examples on Twitter. But even aside from the culture war quagmire, the first few tweets in the thread are fascinating. Wikipedia is up to 400+ employees now? It's spending grew from $10 million in 2010, to $112 million in 2020? The actual website costs are only $2-3 million per year, a…

> Wikipedia is up to 400+ employees now?

Woah. 400+ is nearly as many[1] workers as Amazon[2]. Yet somehow nobody ever talks about unionizing Wikipedia's warehouses.

But it's all there in these Tweets: check out donation recipients like SeRCH gaming the Youtube recommendation engine to misinform elevens[3] of viewers.

1: 400 + 1,608,000

2: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMZN/amazon/number...

3: 43 views in that first video alone. And while I can't read the entire title of the one in the corner, the author's screenshot shows 256 views: nearly twenty times the number of elevens in 43.

Edit: sorry, my math was way off there.

256 is only has about 6 times the number of elevens as 43 does. But my broader argument stands.

Re: The Wikimedia Foundation spends Wikipedia donations on political activism

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>Let's take a look at two big recipients.

Then proceeds to list two cherry-picked grants of $250k each. Ie 1% of the grant money.

Complaints about Wikipedia begging for money while being flush with cash have been around for a long time however this Twitter thread is clearly using that for their own agenda.

Unrelated, I always find the stereotype of the right wing twitter user with the anime girl profile picture amusing.

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