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Re: Yankee Candle reviews indicate that Covid is about surge again

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Well, they've directly protected me from disease at least twice. Life isn't binary 100% or 0%, we have a whole range of numbers between the two extremes.

>Well, they've directly protected me from disease at least twice.

i'm glad for you, but somewhat skeptical of the knowledge. How does one even determine that? Exposure events that didn't cause symptoms, or lessened symptoms encountered when affected?

It's a genuine question; I don't really understand how one would separate immune system effectiveness from vaccine effectiveness with a sampling of a single person given that not every exposure results in illness and the fluidity of the expressed symptoms across the board are so all-over-the-place that they're difficult to compare.

Re: Yankee Candle reviews indicate that Covid is about surge again

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Did the CDC or any health organization also make this claim? Genuinely curious

Pfizer themselves: https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta... > Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 95.3% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 cases in South Africa, where the B.1.351 lineage is prevalent

Those were study results, do you think they were falsified?

Re: Yankee Candle reviews indicate that Covid is about surge again

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Pfizer themselves: https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta... > Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 95.3% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 cases in South Africa, where the B.1.351 lineage is prevalent

Those were study results, do you think they were falsified?

Pfizer and big-pharma has a long history of fudging the truth and bribery.

Why should it be different now ? Same people.

Re: Yankee Candle reviews indicate that Covid is about surge again

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Well, they've directly protected me from disease at least twice. Life isn't binary 100% or 0%, we have a whole range of numbers between the two extremes.

>Well, they've directly protected me from disease at least twice. i'm glad for you, but somewhat skeptical of the knowledge. How does one even determine that? Exposure events that didn't cause symptoms, or lessened symptoms encountered when affected? It's a genuine question; I don't really understand how one would separate immune system effectiveness from vaccine effectiveness with a sampling of a single person given…

The first time(of two) I was exposed to covid by my roommate, we didn't have tests(he later had an antibody test that was positive), but I never developed any symptoms. Who knows, but I was protected from acute illness. The second time he brought it home, we had tests, where he tested positive on multiple days, and I never tested positive nor showed symptoms. Both times, I took no precautions since I was initially exposed before I could mask or distance myself. I have pictures of my negative results, but I don't think you'd accept that as evidence. I just bring this up because there's still a lot of people who don't believe these vaccines work at all, and I am anecdata that shows they do work to reduce or prevent disease(and even infection, proved by rapid testing). Those were two cases where someone in the (small) household was sick. I'm sure, as I work in public education, I've been exposed many more times, but I can't say anything about public exposure since I don't have proof of exposure or duration.

Re: Yankee Candle reviews indicate that Covid is about surge again

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Those were study results, do you think they were falsified?

Pfizer and big-pharma has a long history of fudging the truth and bribery. Why should it be different now ? Same people.

It's a baby and the bathwater situation. Some pharma incentives are perverse, and some people involved in the past and present were behind it. It's worth being cautious about taking things at face value, but it's always worth being skeptical.

Assuming everyone in the company has the same character as whichever employees you anchor on and assuming evidence is falsified is also suboptimal.

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