Oof, the linked trailer on YouTube shows “This video is private” for me.
Looks like they reuploaded it, with Yuzu cut out. (around 1:40 in the video)
Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator
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Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator
#12While Valve shouldn't have done this, Yuzu (and emulation) is completely legal. Nintendo cant do anything unless they want to go hard against emulation itself which brings us to the same are APIs copyrightable debate.
Wait, why should Valve not have done this? I know Nintendo likes to bully smaller folks but it's not like Valve is small or that they rely on keeping good terms with Nintendo, right? Edit: I guess I didn't realize Portal was on Switch.
The more emulation becomes mainstream the more money Nintendo will invest to illegalize it. You cannot legally get roms of commercial games, even if you own the game. Breaking of DRM is automatically copyright infringement according to the DMCA.
Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait, why should Valve not have done this? I know Nintendo likes to bully smaller folks but it's not like Valve is small or that they rely on keeping good terms with Nintendo, right? Edit: I guess I didn't realize Portal was on Switch.
Because it ruins their relationship with Nintendo.
It seems like Valve has re-uploaded without the emulator, but I think there's a case to be made that this sets expectations for Valve and Nintendo in an important way.
Valve is not selling a walled garden product and if you are expecting them to administer the steam deck like one you will be disappointed. If that's not for you then you should not go into business with Valve - it would be painful for both parties.
Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator
#14While Valve shouldn't have done this, Yuzu (and emulation) is completely legal. Nintendo cant do anything unless they want to go hard against emulation itself which brings us to the same are APIs copyrightable debate.
Wait, why should Valve not have done this? I know Nintendo likes to bully smaller folks but it's not like Valve is small or that they rely on keeping good terms with Nintendo, right? Edit: I guess I didn't realize Portal was on Switch.
Because Valve wouldn't want you to emulate Steam games as well (which people do, for online stuff). Valve and Nintendo are on the same side of this.
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#15And what's the problem exactly? It's just emulation - if anything should cause a stir, it should be nintendo for their anti-consumer behaviour
Exactly. Whats the worst that can happen to valve?
Nintendo: "oh no, how dare you show that your product can do something that's perfectly legal and a very common use"
Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait, why should Valve not have done this? I know Nintendo likes to bully smaller folks but it's not like Valve is small or that they rely on keeping good terms with Nintendo, right? Edit: I guess I didn't realize Portal was on Switch.
The more emulation becomes mainstream the more money Nintendo will invest to illegalize it. You cannot legally get roms of commercial games, even if you own the game. Breaking of DRM is automatically copyright infringement according to the DMCA.
They can invest in it but they cannot predict the outcome. I'd like to see DMCA go up against property rights.
Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait, why should Valve not have done this? I know Nintendo likes to bully smaller folks but it's not like Valve is small or that they rely on keeping good terms with Nintendo, right? Edit: I guess I didn't realize Portal was on Switch.
Because Valve wouldn't want you to emulate Steam games as well (which people do, for online stuff). Valve and Nintendo are on the same side of this.
Pirating games. Valve doesn't care if you play games you buy not on their hardware (being their original business), while Nintendo doesn't want you playing Switch games on a computer even if you bought the game.
Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator
#18To the people saying "it's completely legal, what can Nintendo do" it might be worth considering that not everything is about legal / not legal. Companies and people have relationships and it's not always about if something is technically allowed, it's about how it's being understood by the other party and in this case it's pretty clear that Nintendo is not a big fan of emulators.
Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it ruins their relationship with Nintendo.
Do they have that much of one? I think they've had one Switch title (the Portal collection) and Nintendo doesn't really have anything on Steam as far as I know.
Even then the relationship more Valve repo acces and licencing > Nvidia's First Party Studio > Nintendo. And obviously Nividia has a good relationship with Nintendo because of the Tegra X1 powering the switch so it's not a situation of Valve communicating with Nintendo as much as it's Valve letting Nvidia make ports out of their back catalog by occasionally going "I will allow it" whenever Nvidia Lightspeed Studios asks politely enough.
Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator
#20I don't really get the buzz, it's Linux and has flatpak. You want to emulate it? Install it