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Elon Musk suggests making Taiwan a ‘special administrative zone’ similar to HK

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Re: Elon Musk suggests making Taiwan a ‘special administrative zone’ similar to HK

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Post by bamboozled »

throwawaylinux wrote: post #10
jleyank wrote: post #5

Isn't it time to consider Elon "performance art" and just ignore the guy? He's either clueless or trolling on the political scene, and he's sorta demonstrated that he's untrustworthy on the business scene. Take his good products and leave the rest.

I love hearing from and thinking about different and contrary opinions, and it's very interesting to hear them coming from someone like Elon. I don't think being rich or making successful things necessarily gives him more credibility per se, but being obscenely rich and running large companies does give him access and connections that are unavailable to a commoner like myself so I think that does actually make him in…

Oh and what’s “the narrative” in this case ? A country doesn’t want to be part of a communist dictatorship subject to madness like “zero covid”? Is that a narrative ?

Re: Elon Musk suggests making Taiwan a ‘special administrative zone’ similar to HK

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Post by mlindner »

Except he literally said not like Hong Kong. These news articles try to stretch things just to smear Musk literally all the time. (Actual quote "they could have an arrangement that’s more lenient than Hong Kong.")

Yes it's not a great idea, but attack the idea, not the a straw man of the idea. All you do is give more fodder to people.

Re: Elon Musk suggests making Taiwan a ‘special administrative zone’ similar to HK

#13

Post by mlindner »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #3

After what just happened to Hong Kong, why does Musk think this is a reasonable idea? Why does he expect Taiwan to think it's a good idea? Musk should shut up and go away. He's not a diplomat or an expert on international relations, and he's making himself look stupid by saying stuff that is obviously dumb.

He actually said "they could have an arrangement that’s more lenient than Hong Kong."

So the headline is incorrect.

Re: Elon Musk suggests making Taiwan a ‘special administrative zone’ similar to HK

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Post by bamboozled »

WheelsAtLarge wrote: post #8

This is exactly why twitter is such a catch for Elon. At what point in history has any commoner, even a rich one, been able to speak to power with one simple message. Never! He now has control over such an apparatus. A tool that will let him say anything to everyone, even if it's stupid, anytime he wants. We'll be hearing his ideas for decades to come. The world's ego maniacs can only dream of such a thing. The world…

However, there is a good chance it might end up like “Truth Social”. Twitter isn’t exactly impossible to fork.

Re: Elon Musk suggests making Taiwan a ‘special administrative zone’ similar to HK

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Post by [deleted] »

mlindner wrote: post #12

Except he literally said not like Hong Kong. These news articles try to stretch things just to smear Musk literally all the time. (Actual quote "they could have an arrangement that’s more lenient than Hong Kong.") Yes it's not a great idea, but attack the idea, not the a straw man of the idea. All you do is give more fodder to people.

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Re: Elon Musk suggests making Taiwan a ‘special administrative zone’ similar to HK

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Post by throwawaylinux »

bamboozled wrote: post #11
throwawaylinux wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love hearing from and thinking about different and contrary opinions, and it's very interesting to hear them coming from someone like Elon. I don't think being rich or making successful things necessarily gives him more credibility per se, but being obscenely rich and running large companies does give him access and connections that are unavailable to a commoner like myself so I think that does actually make him in…

Oh and what’s “the narrative” in this case ? A country doesn’t want to be part of a communist dictatorship subject to madness like “zero covid”? Is that a narrative ?

It's something whose adherents become bewildered, angry, and afraid when they find a skeptic, someone who has questions or different beliefs. You'll know it when you see it.

Re: Elon Musk suggests making Taiwan a ‘special administrative zone’ similar to HK

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Post by sidibe »

mlindner wrote: post #13
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #3

After what just happened to Hong Kong, why does Musk think this is a reasonable idea? Why does he expect Taiwan to think it's a good idea? Musk should shut up and go away. He's not a diplomat or an expert on international relations, and he's making himself look stupid by saying stuff that is obviously dumb.

He actually said "they could have an arrangement that’s more lenient than Hong Kong." So the headline is incorrect.

> an arrangement that’s more lenient than Hong Kong.

So like the arrangement Hong Kong was supposed to have? Twice this week Elon has shown he has faith in lying authoritians.

Re: Elon Musk suggests making Taiwan a ‘special administrative zone’ similar to HK

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Post by hunta2097 »

WheelsAtLarge wrote: post #8

This is exactly why twitter is such a catch for Elon. At what point in history has any commoner, even a rich one, been able to speak to power with one simple message. Never! He now has control over such an apparatus. A tool that will let him say anything to everyone, even if it's stupid, anytime he wants. We'll be hearing his ideas for decades to come. The world's ego maniacs can only dream of such a thing. The world…

If Musk actually buys Twitter I'll eat my hat.

He made the offer as a flex, or to own his detractors. He has no intention of following through.

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