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Palantir Had Secret Plan to Crack UK’s NHS: ‘Buying Our Way In’

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oh no, strategic m&a to enter a new market, getting a customer base and acquihiring a team with local experience? that's evil! i have lots of issues with palantir's applications spying on law abiding citizens and expanding government power but, uhh, this aint it chief.

Note that Palantir doesn’t spy on anything. It’s a shiny dashboard placed on top of an organization’s database. That’s all it is. Palantir does not provide data. It is the customer’s data.

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There has been talk of an EU version of Palantir for a while now. Anyone know what the latest news is? Technically it doesnt look like there is anything too complex about what Foundary does.

Do people know you can do wjat palantir does with Splunk?

A lot of people don’t know what Palantir does. Only what they’ve heard.

Re: Palantir Had Secret Plan to Crack UK’s NHS: ‘Buying Our Way In’

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oh no, strategic m&a to enter a new market, getting a customer base and acquihiring a team with local experience? that's evil! i have lots of issues with palantir's applications spying on law abiding citizens and expanding government power but, uhh, this aint it chief.

I think you're missing the forest for the trees here. The NHS is supposed to be a public service, but to undermine public support for it the UK government have been slowly trying to hack off bits of it to give to the private sector and strategically underfunding it. If they could get away with it they would probably sell the NHS down the river to US healthtech in order to get a US trade deal. So people are rightly sensitive to anything that appears to point to large private sector companies gaining an increased foothold in the NHS

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Bloomberg used to be better. This is basically a non-story. The 'secret plan' was to use the nefarious mechanism of... Buying access that was for sale. All the allusions to shadyhandedness are just there to justify the existence of a story about Palantir because the author knew a story about a controversial company would propagate better even if it was devoid of anything meaningful to say.

It is the subject: NHS, Peter Thiel, CIA, Silicon Valley, privatization...the media coverage on this sort of stuff in the UK is deranged. Palantir is just offering a "shiny dashboard", we should build your own...it is that easy, just knock up a Palantir competitor in a weekend (the NHS has decent tech units, but core NHS is like this...they hire £20k "devs", ask why they are getting hacked all the time, nothing works…

So **ing what if UK healthtech isn't up to silicon valley 'standards'. As if the US healthcare system is anything to be envious of.

Re: Palantir Had Secret Plan to Crack UK’s NHS: ‘Buying Our Way In’

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Bloomberg used to be better. This is basically a non-story. The 'secret plan' was to use the nefarious mechanism of... Buying access that was for sale. All the allusions to shadyhandedness are just there to justify the existence of a story about Palantir because the author knew a story about a controversial company would propagate better even if it was devoid of anything meaningful to say.

This is so disingenuous. The whole point is that in a publicly funded health system many people disagree with this access being available in the first place. The UK government tries to paint a picture whereby giving such access will allow a raft of plucky UK startups to revitalize the NHS, when in reality we are just handing over our data and taxpayer money to the likes of Palantir.

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Do people know you can do wjat palantir does with Splunk?

A lot of people don’t know what Palantir does. Only what they’ve heard.

maybe this helps https://youtube.com/channel/UCQRc3PMlCsoodxbR4IsglKQ

Re: Palantir Had Secret Plan to Crack UK’s NHS: ‘Buying Our Way In’

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oh no, strategic m&a to enter a new market, getting a customer base and acquihiring a team with local experience? that's evil! i have lots of issues with palantir's applications spying on law abiding citizens and expanding government power but, uhh, this aint it chief.

> that's evil!

Not a Brit, so not directly involved, but, yes, letting private enterprise sneaking their way in into a government-run health system is the beginning of pure evil.

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Bloomberg used to be better. This is basically a non-story. The 'secret plan' was to use the nefarious mechanism of... Buying access that was for sale. All the allusions to shadyhandedness are just there to justify the existence of a story about Palantir because the author knew a story about a controversial company would propagate better even if it was devoid of anything meaningful to say.

It is the subject: NHS, Peter Thiel, CIA, Silicon Valley, privatization...the media coverage on this sort of stuff in the UK is deranged. Palantir is just offering a "shiny dashboard", we should build your own...it is that easy, just knock up a Palantir competitor in a weekend (the NHS has decent tech units, but core NHS is like this...they hire £20k "devs", ask why they are getting hacked all the time, nothing works…

I thought that Palantir is way more than a “shiny dashboard”, but that they managed to integrate data access and visualisation very well e.g. BASF is their customer for their Foundry product.

Is there a detail overview somewhere what products Palantir actually has, and what technology it uses for these products?

Re: Palantir Had Secret Plan to Crack UK’s NHS: ‘Buying Our Way In’

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Bloomberg used to be better. This is basically a non-story. The 'secret plan' was to use the nefarious mechanism of... Buying access that was for sale. All the allusions to shadyhandedness are just there to justify the existence of a story about Palantir because the author knew a story about a controversial company would propagate better even if it was devoid of anything meaningful to say.

This is so disingenuous. The whole point is that in a publicly funded health system many people disagree with this access being available in the first place. The UK government tries to paint a picture whereby giving such access will allow a raft of plucky UK startups to revitalize the NHS, when in reality we are just handing over our data and taxpayer money to the likes of Palantir.

publicly funded systems routinely use privately funded solutions. there’s nothing new or special here.

that fact that people disagree means nothing and should be ignored as people disagree all the times about anything and everything.

Re: Palantir Had Secret Plan to Crack UK’s NHS: ‘Buying Our Way In’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people know you can do wjat palantir does with Splunk?

A lot of people don’t know what Palantir does. Only what they’ve heard.

Well, I've heard Palintir is no better than any other body-shop: hype-up their tech/senior engineering acumen, get the contract and throw anyone with a pulse at the project while using boring technology (SQL, spreadsheets).
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