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Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022

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Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022

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Post by humanlion87 »

3qz wrote: post #4

Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…

Not having access to doctors or being unable to afford housing are due to policy failures in other areas, not purely due to higher immigration. Canada will find it tough to replenish it's workforce without high rates of immigration.

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Post by whalesalad »

3qz wrote: post #4

Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…

A lot of people will often put the US and Canada up against one another in a head to head battle but forget to realize the population is less than the state of California. For all intents and purposes Canada is a small country and their way of life is very much a small scale experiment, as-is our democratic experiment here in the US. Scalability is tough.

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Post by adra »

0xpotato wrote: post #3

Curious on the distribution of the duration of immigrants in Canada. Any data points on this?

It's be hard to track the number who stay and for how long. Just because they're coming to Canada doesn't mean they stay long term. Many immigrate, explore, then move on. Others hope that Canada is a softer immigration path into the US. This seems to have some Merritt in the past, though I'm not sure how effective that strategy is now.

Anyways, here's one source https://www.statista.com/statistics/443063/number-of-immigra...

Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022

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Post by crakenzak »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #6
3qz wrote: post #4

Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…

So build more houses and train more doctors then? Seems weird to hate on immigrants and say your country is overpopulated (it isn’t)

No need for the aggressive tone, but maybe what the comment you’re replying to isn’t saying that the country is overpopulated, but they’re saying that the infrastructure available isn’t capable of sustaining this type of population influx (regardless of where they’re from) and leads to a lower quality of life for the people already in the country.

You and OP can probably agree that infrastructure needs to improve to support more people, but until that happens, there shouldn’t be such availability of immigrant visas.

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Post by lettergram »

3qz wrote: post #4

Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…

In reality, it’s becoming a colony. You know how the US captured Texas? Americans moved there (on invitation of the Mexican government), then when the government of Mexico didn’t act as expected the US supported a war of independence of Texas.

Who are most of the immigrants to Canada I wonder…

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Post by version_five »

bergenty wrote: post #9
3qz wrote: post #4

Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…

You have too many people in a country with the average population density less than a person a square mile? This is such strange thinking- your solutions should be build more houses and train/immigrate in more doctors! This country is doing better than it ever has in history. The immigrants Canada lets in are a gift to the economy. If neighboring US is anything to go by, 90 of the top 500 US unicorns ($ 1 billion+) h…

Sounds like you're not very familiar with canada. We have a very narrow populated strip within about 50-100 km of the us border, and then a vast uninhabitable area in the north. Overall population density is a meaningless metric

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Post by jimbob45 »

Diving deeper into StatsCan’s estimate, it becomes clear that non-permanent residents — including asylum claimants, work and study permit holders and victims of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine — made up most of the new additions to Canada’s population in the second quarter of 2022

Good for StatsCan for delineating their results and publishing their methodology. I see too many studies posted on HN with little to no methodology available.

But, I fear that this estimate will be misleadingly used as a right-wing talking point. I don’t think many individuals would consider non-permanent residents to be “immigrants”. I certainly wouldn’t think the right-wingers would lump them in with the immigrants they consider to be problematic.

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Post by aeturnum »

3qz wrote: post #4

Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…

I do think "we" (whatever that means) are paying too little attention to the real work of truly integrating cultures. It's hard work - to be open and aware of your actions and to see how one might adjust oneself after noticing another person's actions in the same space / town / city / country. Changes on changes. Mutating culture is hard, luxuriating in a culture we know is easy.

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Post by sbaiddn »

3qz wrote: post #4

Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…

As an immigrant to Canada... pretty much spot on.

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Post by bergenty »

version_five wrote: post #16
bergenty wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have too many people in a country with the average population density less than a person a square mile? This is such strange thinking- your solutions should be build more houses and train/immigrate in more doctors! This country is doing better than it ever has in history. The immigrants Canada lets in are a gift to the economy. If neighboring US is anything to go by, 90 of the top 500 US unicorns ($ 1 billion+) h…

Sounds like you're not very familiar with canada. We have a very narrow populated strip within about 50-100 km of the us border, and then a vast uninhabitable area in the north. Overall population density is a meaningless metric

That’s because all 38 million comfortably fit in those places. There is plenty of inhabitable land between Toronto and the frozen northern lands.
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