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CyanogenMod will never have Carrier IQ

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Re: CyanogenMod will never have Carrier IQ

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Kicking them when they're down and fishing for compliments at the same time; impressive. Perhaps next we'll hear that CyanogenMod doesn't cause cancer.

Not sure how CyanogenMod commenting on a topical issue that affects their target audience deserves a hostile response. Also not sure when people started caring about the feelings of telcos that put spyware on your phone by default...

Re: CyanogenMod will never have Carrier IQ

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Nice, but end users shouldn't have to root their phones and install a new OS just to not have all their data logged and reported on.

shouldn't, I heartily agree, but the hard reality of the matter seems to be that it is currently necessary. If you don't control root on your own device, you don't know (and can't find out) who else does.

Re: CyanogenMod will never have Carrier IQ

#13
post #2

Kicking them when they're down and fishing for compliments at the same time; impressive. Perhaps next we'll hear that CyanogenMod doesn't cause cancer.

If it turned out that basically every other mainstream phone OS had just been discovered to cause cancer, yes, I would say the fact that CM doesn't and never will would be welcome news.

Re: CyanogenMod will never have Carrier IQ

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CyanogenMod is the reason why I was comfortable buying an Android, as I don't trust these Android phone makers to release updates in a timely manner or to care about me as a customer.

But how did you feel about all those strange programs you had to use to get root to install it?

Because when I went through the process I was extremely nervous - even though most of the code is open source, how would you spot a backdoor if it was buried within a line?

The ability to have root from the factory on a device you own should be a consumer's right in the states, just like getting your carrier unlock code.

Re: CyanogenMod will never have Carrier IQ

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post #14
post #7

CyanogenMod is the reason why I was comfortable buying an Android, as I don't trust these Android phone makers to release updates in a timely manner or to care about me as a customer.

But how did you feel about all those strange programs you had to use to get root to install it? Because when I went through the process I was extremely nervous - even though most of the code is open source, how would you spot a backdoor if it was buried within a line? The ability to have root from the factory on a device you own should be a consumer's right in the states, just like getting your carrier unlock code.

I feel the same as you - I consider CyanogenMod a useful escape hatch.

Re: CyanogenMod will never have Carrier IQ

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post #2

Kicking them when they're down and fishing for compliments at the same time; impressive. Perhaps next we'll hear that CyanogenMod doesn't cause cancer.

You don't get it do you?

As an engineer I couldn't care less about their small post. I already knew about cyanogen.

As a run of the mill consumer though this post couldn't be more poignant. Raising awareness of an alternative firmware? That is huge. This is how Linux got started.

Blame marketing all you want but the more people who know about Cyanogen the better.

Re: CyanogenMod will never have Carrier IQ

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post #14
post #7

CyanogenMod is the reason why I was comfortable buying an Android, as I don't trust these Android phone makers to release updates in a timely manner or to care about me as a customer.

But how did you feel about all those strange programs you had to use to get root to install it? Because when I went through the process I was extremely nervous - even though most of the code is open source, how would you spot a backdoor if it was buried within a line? The ability to have root from the factory on a device you own should be a consumer's right in the states, just like getting your carrier unlock code.

Can't agree more with "The ability to have root from the factory on a device you own should be a consumer's right in the states, just like getting your carrier unlock code." but please remove "in the states".

When buying a computer, desktop or laptop, I would be extremely disappointed if I discover that I don't have the full ownership represented by "root access".

When buying a car, don't we get the keys of the doors and a way to open the front cover where the engine lies?

I don't understand why our expectations with mobile phones should be any different. People are letting go this ownership too easily. It worries me. I suspect there is some PR or FUD work behind the curtain.

We are told that full ownership is dangerous and unnecessary. Like any power given to the owners, it may be dangerous, yes: I can fill my car's gas tank with sugar and break the engine if I wish to do so. But I think this Carriergate shows well enough that full ownership of devices that are so deeply rooted in our private lives is of the utmost necessity.

Re: CyanogenMod will never have Carrier IQ

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post #2

Kicking them when they're down and fishing for compliments at the same time; impressive. Perhaps next we'll hear that CyanogenMod doesn't cause cancer.

You've just helped me to understand, why I had somewhat uneasy feeling about the project name: in my head cyanogen has connotations with carcinogen.

The name actually means "causes blueness", I guess.
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