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Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision

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Re: Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision

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Probably not serious enough to discuss. Planes clip random things – and each other – while taxiing at airports all the time.

It is actually far from being that common.

But.. uncommon enough that people should care about it world wide each time it happens? If this happened at my nearest airport, I would expect to see it in the local paper. I definitely wouldn't expect people more than a couple hundred miles away from me to hear about it.

Re: Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is actually far from being that common.

No, it’s quite common. Planes collide on the ground all the time, at airports all over the world. Normally minor “oops” in ground handling, by the pilots but also can be pushers and such who are ferrying around airplanes. Runway entrance and exits are particularly hazardous and are marked that way.

What happens after, does the plane still fly? Are planes engineered to withstand this?

Re: Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is actually far from being that common.

No, it’s quite common. Planes collide on the ground all the time, at airports all over the world. Normally minor “oops” in ground handling, by the pilots but also can be pushers and such who are ferrying around airplanes. Runway entrance and exits are particularly hazardous and are marked that way.

You need to provide data behind this claim.

Not only you need major mistakes by multiple people and systems for two planes to touch while taxing, but two planes colliding even in an apparently minor way is enough to ground the planes for controls.

Re: Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s quite common. Planes collide on the ground all the time, at airports all over the world. Normally minor “oops” in ground handling, by the pilots but also can be pushers and such who are ferrying around airplanes. Runway entrance and exits are particularly hazardous and are marked that way.

What happens after, does the plane still fly? Are planes engineered to withstand this?

There is zero chance they're flying immediately after this.

Re: Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision

#16
post #6

Probably not serious enough to discuss. Planes clip random things – and each other – while taxiing at airports all the time.

Really? That's absolute madness. Any more info?

FAA search page for incidents: https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:12:::NO:::

List of incidents in the past 10 days: https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:93:::NO:::

Re: Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s quite common. Planes collide on the ground all the time, at airports all over the world. Normally minor “oops” in ground handling, by the pilots but also can be pushers and such who are ferrying around airplanes. Runway entrance and exits are particularly hazardous and are marked that way.

You need to provide data behind this claim. Not only you need major mistakes by multiple people and systems for two planes to touch while taxing, but two planes colliding even in an apparently minor way is enough to ground the planes for controls.

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Re: Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s quite common. Planes collide on the ground all the time, at airports all over the world. Normally minor “oops” in ground handling, by the pilots but also can be pushers and such who are ferrying around airplanes. Runway entrance and exits are particularly hazardous and are marked that way.

What happens after, does the plane still fly? Are planes engineered to withstand this?

I imagine there's a good chance that the plane could fly after this, but aviation is (rightfully) risk averse and expect it'll have a pass a full inspection before being cleared for flight again.

Re: Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? That's absolute madness. Any more info?

FAA search page for incidents: https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:12:::NO ::: List of incidents in the past 10 days: https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:93:::NO :::

Thanks for the link.

By my reading, of the 8 incidents reported in the last 10 days for Airbus and Boeing aircraft, 7 were collisions with birds and one was:

> AIRCRAFT LANDED AND POST FLIGHT INSPECTION REVEALED DAMAGE TO RIGHT LANDING GEAR AND FLAPS, HOUSTON, TX.

Nothing about two planes colliding on a runway.

Re: Heathrow Airport: Two planes in minor collision

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? That's absolute madness. Any more info?

FAA search page for incidents: https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:12:::NO ::: List of incidents in the past 10 days: https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:93:::NO :::

almost all of these are non-commercial; all but 1 of the commercial incidents from the past 10 days are due to striking birds in flight, and nothing with airport taxiing
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