Take heart, even if you weren't shadowbanned, with a young, low karma account your first comments on most subreddits would get automatically modded as spam by Reddit's dumpy spam filter anyway.
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#12Is this done globally by Reddit itself or is applied individually by subs to new accounts?
I mod a few small subs, there does not appear to be a way for mods to shadowban. I believe it's only Reddit that has the capability.
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#13Is this done globally by Reddit itself or is applied individually by subs to new accounts?
This is a global thing. Subreddit a cannot shadowban accounts.
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#14I've noticed instagram does this too. You try to create a second account and they will "suspend" you automatically and force you through a verification system. Their spam algorithms have to be better than this...
Twitter is also more aggressive with verification challenges when I use a VPN.
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#15Maybe just me but I'm starting to doubt any "name-and-shame" Tell HN posts from throwaway accounts. If you are a regular here and have a proper account then why did you make a throwaway for this? If you are not a regular here then why do you make a name-and-shame post as your first post?
I did not read this post as fame and shame. OP just shared his experience with Reddit.
You can get shadowbanned on Reddit for minor offenses if you get banned from large subreddits and reported by people too many times.
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#16Maybe just me but I'm starting to doubt any "name-and-shame" Tell HN posts from throwaway accounts. If you are a regular here and have a proper account then why did you make a throwaway for this? If you are not a regular here then why do you make a name-and-shame post as your first post?
I did not read this post as fame and shame. OP just shared his experience with Reddit. You can get shadowbanned on Reddit for minor offenses if you get banned from large subreddits and reported by people too many times.
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#17It kinda sucks that the name of this concept (shadow ban) is completely ruined by analphabetic luddites (hyperbole, don't worry) calling every platform that ignores them a bunch of shadowbanners while it might simply be a case of an eventually consistent database, a hype algorithm that chose someone else's message, or a feed curation mechanism that simply doesn't include everyone else's messages.
A more usable term might be 'muted' or 'hidden' instead of a complete 'ban without letting you know'. Internally it's even more likely that they work with an extra reputation system next to the visible karma system where new accounts are simply given 'bad' reputation way sooner than they should. Considering mod-communication works fine, it's probably just shoddy spam protection systems combined with a recursive problem of not having enough reputation to post, which is required to gain said reputation.
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#18I remember registering for Reddit with Tor, then posting my first comment, only to have it invisible when I browse in an entirely new browsing session. So I tried my trusty residential connection and then I was able to post without any shadowban in place.
I concluded they place a 'score' on your IP. Obviously Tor has low reputation, so they ban that. I imagine residential IPs due to their traceability actually helps Reddit in some cases where if you say something off-color or highly inflammatory or outright illegal, then they have grounds to call law enforcement and track you down.
Hackernews does this too. I can't create throwaway HN accounts on a VPN/Tor because my first post is always shadowbanned, but my residential IP is never banned, and my posts show up in /newest every time.
Also: Welcome to the Internet!
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#19I made a post that said, "sounds like HN lmfao" and I got shadowbanned lmfao
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#20Take heart, even if you weren't shadowbanned, with a young, low karma account your first comments on most subreddits would get automatically modded as spam by Reddit's dumpy spam filter anyway.
True.
Best bet is if you want an alt account, make one now, use it on a few small subs, then let it sit an mature a few months.