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Facebook settles with FTC, under privacy watch for 20 years

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Re: Facebook settles with FTC, under privacy watch for 20 years

#11

Specifically, under the proposed settlement, Facebook is: "barred from making misrepresentations about the privacy or security of consumers' personal information;" Is this implying companies are allowed to lie? Seems redundant.

It sounds to me like they're just reiterating the law that's already in place, highlighting that Facebook has been violating it.

Re: Facebook settles with FTC, under privacy watch for 20 years

#12

Specifically, under the proposed settlement, Facebook is: "barred from making misrepresentations about the privacy or security of consumers' personal information;" Is this implying companies are allowed to lie? Seems redundant.

I think what it means is that, in this case, the FTC gets to watch and make sure Facebook complies. If they don't, they get penalized for it. FTA:

The proposed order also contains standard record-keeping provisions to allow the FTC to monitor compliance with its order.

and then further down:

Each violation of such an order may result in a civil penalty of up to $16,000.

I really hope that's up to $16,000 per person for each violation.

Re: Facebook settles with FTC, under privacy watch for 20 years

#14

Specifically, under the proposed settlement, Facebook is: "barred from making misrepresentations about the privacy or security of consumers' personal information;" Is this implying companies are allowed to lie? Seems redundant.

I think what it means is that, in this case, the FTC gets to watch and make sure Facebook complies. If they don't, they get penalized for it. FTA: The proposed order also contains standard record-keeping provisions to allow the FTC to monitor compliance with its order. and then further down: Each violation of such an order may result in a civil penalty of up to $16,000. I really hope that's up to $16,000 per person f…

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Re: Facebook settles with FTC, under privacy watch for 20 years

#15
So the penalty for ongoing repeated lies and fraud is....

nothing. Zero. The FTC has investigated, and the settlement is zero money and zero penalties. Not one dollar. Whew! I'm glad they were punished! They won't do THAT again!

The U.S. is really in late-stage empire breakdown. I don't think there is any significant enforcement of any laws whatsoever against companies and people that are reasonably well connected. The only thing keeping the society from total breakdown is inertia.

Re: Facebook settles with FTC, under privacy watch for 20 years

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I never understood why bodies like the FTC rely on 'independent, third-party audits' for enforcement, since they end up making the entire action pointless. The independent third-party auditor will give Facebook a stamp of approval, both in the next 180 days and every two years thereafter, because the independent third-party auditor wants the repeat business. Same thing goes for any regulation that depends on a third…

Same for the PCI compliance process. Auditors are on your side and want you to pass, so they'll bend in all sorts of ways to accept bad practice as "acceptable at this company"

Re: Facebook settles with FTC, under privacy watch for 20 years

#17

So the penalty for ongoing repeated lies and fraud is.... nothing. Zero. The FTC has investigated, and the settlement is zero money and zero penalties. Not one dollar. Whew! I'm glad they were punished! They won't do THAT again! The U.S. is really in late-stage empire breakdown. I don't think there is any significant enforcement of any laws whatsoever against companies and people that are reasonably well connected. T…

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Re: Facebook settles with FTC, under privacy watch for 20 years

#18
Many have posted to this thread with complaints that boil down to "this is a slap on the wrist because they are well connected". If you were the FTC, what would you do to Facebook in this case, how would it be supported in law and what long term change for the better would your action create?

Privacy is a civil good but it is a fine line to walk indeed to punish an innovator during a recession. Where's the happy medium?

Re: Facebook settles with FTC, under privacy watch for 20 years

#19

The best part is when you get to the footer and see: "Like the FTC on Facebook".

Utterly inexcusable. Someone (several someones really) at the FTC should lose their jobs over that.

When O when will we get regulators with some distance from those they are regulating? (I'm looking at you SEC.)

Re: Facebook settles with FTC, under privacy watch for 20 years

#20
You know... people could just take responsibility for sharing their private information. If they don't think a website "privacy policy" is enough of an assurance, it is their fault for accepting that risk.

FB should not be blamed for sharing information that others freely share with FB. It's ridiculous. It's even more ridiculous to think that government regulation is somehow needed to protect privacy. How absurd.

"I keep using this service and they don't do what I want! But I keep sharing my information with them."

Come on. At a certain point, individuals need to accept that THEY maintain a relationship with FB as well.

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