Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by thepasswordis » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:53 PM UTC

SayMyName wrote: post #8

Odd article considering everything is still software locked to the phone. Sure it's easier to repair, but if you get your parts from anywhere else than apple's program directly, a lot of features will stop working. Hugh Jeffreys made a video interchanging parts on two brand new iphone's and it disabled a lot of things including auto-brightness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2WhU77ihw8

Ah, so there is a way to disable auto brightness! Are there any aftermarket upgrades which will also permanently disable "live photos"?

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by millzlane » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:58 PM UTC

SayMyName wrote: post #8

Odd article considering everything is still software locked to the phone. Sure it's easier to repair, but if you get your parts from anywhere else than apple's program directly, a lot of features will stop working. Hugh Jeffreys made a video interchanging parts on two brand new iphone's and it disabled a lot of things including auto-brightness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2WhU77ihw8

This makes it easier for my technicians when customers lie by omission when they have had their device repaired someplace else and they bring it back to us for repair. It's not until we get into the repair and find out someone has stripped screws that can't be removed without extraction tools and replaced LSI's.

It's also nice for consumers who get their devices stolen strictly for parts. Preventing someone from basically chop shopping phones. I don't use iphone's but it's a nice feature. If the parts are serialized they could prevent your stolen iphone's camera from working in someone else's stolen iphone. Essentially locking the parts to a iphone that locked by an appleid.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:58 PM UTC

gcau wrote: post #6

Only the base model, and it's gone from bad to less bad? I can forgive that designing a phone to be easily repairable can be very hard, just as long as you don't purposely make it harder to repair, or unnecessarily expensive.

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Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by zeroflow » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:02 PM UTC

mmazing wrote: post #5

https://valkyrie.cdn.ifixit.com/media/2022/09/18133349/iPhon... Uh, look at that wonky Qualcomm SDR735 chip. Actually looking at it a bit closer it seems like the board was destroyed during disassembly?

Yeah. If you look at the complete board shots, those chips are inside the sandwich of PCBs. So yeah, it was probably disassembled in an reflow oven without much care for the components.

1. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+14+Pro+Max+Chip+ID/15322...

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by smlckz » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:03 PM UTC

incanus77 wrote: post #2

> Forget satellite SOS and the larger camera, the headline is this: Apple has completely redesigned the internals of the iPhone 14 to make it easier to repair. HN:

Extra hilarious as I can actually hear the sound of crickets.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by fodmap » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:07 PM UTC

mmazing wrote: post #5

https://valkyrie.cdn.ifixit.com/media/2022/09/18133349/iPhon... Uh, look at that wonky Qualcomm SDR735 chip. Actually looking at it a bit closer it seems like the board was destroyed during disassembly?

Not only that, in the previous picture you can see some smd components have been blown away as well.

https://valkyrie.cdn.ifixit.com/media/2022/09/18133340/iPhon...

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by tomxor » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:07 PM UTC

kmeisthax wrote: post #10

everyone wrote: post #4

This has gotta be cus of pressure from EU? Like if they didnt make them more repairable it might be illegal to sell them here soon.

The EU pressure would be in the domains of software distribution (Apple thinks third-party app stores are just malware) and charger compatibility (Apple still holds onto Lightning). They've yet to talk about either of these at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of these requirements is either geolocked or exclusive to EU models.

> Apple thinks third-party app stores are just malware

Apple is greedy not stupid. They don't want third party app stores because it would cause competition and interfere with their almost entirely vertically integrated consumer milking machine... they don't care about malware, they care about control, controlling the user, to make sure they spend as much money as possible with Apple.

Notice that they have been increasingly swapping out as much third party as possible so they can take all of the profit, they "produce" film and tv shows and sell those tv shows on a device they make with a payment processing method they own... lots of layers of profit, it goes well beyond monopoly, they are destroying the concept of a free market. They do similar things with hardware and tech, buying out or forcing businesses into positions where they have to sell to Apple out or get pushed out.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by dmitrygr » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:09 PM UTC

> We are hearing reports that Apple is continuing their hostile path of pairing parts to the phone, requiring activation of the back glass after installation.

On the other hand, this makes stealing an iPhone more and more pointless, as more and more parts cannot be parted out and sold. After activation lock was added, thieves started parting out screens and batteries to sell them and get at least some value out of an otherwise useless stolen iPhone. Want to see how useless an activation locked iPhone is? Check eBay. I assume that for iP14+ it'll be even less. I welcome this move.

(all opinions my own)

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by incanus77 » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:10 PM UTC

thepasswordis wrote: post #11

SayMyName wrote: post #8

Odd article considering everything is still software locked to the phone. Sure it's easier to repair, but if you get your parts from anywhere else than apple's program directly, a lot of features will stop working. Hugh Jeffreys made a video interchanging parts on two brand new iphone's and it disabled a lot of things including auto-brightness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2WhU77ihw8

Ah, so there is a way to disable auto brightness! Are there any aftermarket upgrades which will also permanently disable "live photos"?

Settings > Camera > Preserve Settings > Live Photo

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by laweijfmvo » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:10 PM UTC

thepasswordis wrote: post #11

SayMyName wrote: post #8

Odd article considering everything is still software locked to the phone. Sure it's easier to repair, but if you get your parts from anywhere else than apple's program directly, a lot of features will stop working. Hugh Jeffreys made a video interchanging parts on two brand new iphone's and it disabled a lot of things including auto-brightness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2WhU77ihw8

Ah, so there is a way to disable auto brightness! Are there any aftermarket upgrades which will also permanently disable "live photos"?

The Settings menu