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Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast

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Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast

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> I measured the standby power consumption on my set, and it uses an extreme 23 W, or 200 kWh per year For context, this would be approx 10% of the average consumption of a German...

> My Apple TV uses 1.2 W in standby

> Have anyone else measured their set and seen similar figures? Any way to lower it? > I tried setting Eco to high, and that lowered it by a whopping 0.5 W in standby to 22.5...

> edit: According to the specs, it's supposed to draw 0.5 W in standby? What is going on? > https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/televisions-project...

> Thanks, I had already turned off remote start (it lowered standby by 0.5 W). Remote Device Settings did not affect it much either

> I reset the TV to factory settings, set it up without logging in to Google, and declining all privacy policies and "extra" services. Still idling around 23 W

> After some trial and error, disconnecting the ethernet cable seems to be the trick. Then the TV is able to idle at 0.5 W after a few minutes

> Something must be terribly wrong with the software though, that keeps the SoC active if it has internet connectivity? I found in the Norwegian specs that "network standby" should draw only 1 W

> I'm no longer using the smart features after I upgraded to an Apple TV last year, so in principle this is not a problem for me to lose Chromecast, but it is quite irresponsible of Sony to have such buggy firmware

[EDIT: I forgot to include the concluding post:]

> Indeed, I disabled Chromecast from the app menu and then the SoC is powering down to the 0.5-1W levels after a minute or so

> So to summarize: > If the TV has a network connection and Chromecast is enabled, the SoC is not powering down such that the set idles at roughly 25W instead of the 0.5-1W per the specifications

> This is not good if it applies to more people than me, as each set would consume about 200 kWh per year in standby

> German households consume 130 TWh electricity per year, or 1500 kWh per person. So this is sizeable in an European setting, and would help tremendously with the electricity saving targets that may come this winter due to the war

> Now, how to get the attention of Sony and Google to fix this? This may even be in breach of the ecodesign guidelines!

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Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast

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I've a 2015 model that's becoming harder to use because of the outdated software and I'm not sure of a fix. The panel still looks great.

Depending on what you do either get an Nvidia Shield or an AppleTV.

I'd recommend the Shield for Plex or the AppleTV for streaming Netflix, etc.

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This may not sound bad, but it's the equivalent of 200 kWh per year and the set is only supposed to draw 0.5-1W from the specifications This would cost more than 50 EUR per year at current prices, and is sizeable compared to the average German citizens consumption of 1500 kWh electricity Let's just say this is not ideal given the current energy shortage in Europe...

It also is illegal in the EU for new devices. https://ec.europa.eu/info/energy-climate-change-environment/... : “Network-connected standby devices Modern appliances are increasingly connected to the internet during standby mode, consuming higher amounts of energy. This includes networked televisions and decoders, printers, game consoles and modems. - Specific requirements for network-connected standby devices were in…

The TV came on market in 2015 AFAIK, the C denotes the 2015 model year

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It also is illegal in the EU for new devices. https://ec.europa.eu/info/energy-climate-change-environment/... : “Network-connected standby devices Modern appliances are increasingly connected to the internet during standby mode, consuming higher amounts of energy. This includes networked televisions and decoders, printers, game consoles and modems. - Specific requirements for network-connected standby devices were in…

There were devices that consumed 80 watts in standby. I have a cabinet full of equipment including my cable modem, a computer (server, no monitor) with 8 mechanical hard drives. The idle current is 76 watts or so. How could something be so high?

It's easy to burn energy when nobody's paying it any attention. Mostly by not really idling, I suspect

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It also is illegal in the EU for new devices. https://ec.europa.eu/info/energy-climate-change-environment/... : “Network-connected standby devices Modern appliances are increasingly connected to the internet during standby mode, consuming higher amounts of energy. This includes networked televisions and decoders, printers, game consoles and modems. - Specific requirements for network-connected standby devices were in…

The TV came on market in 2015 AFAIK, the C denotes the 2015 model year

If it’s like cars, they started production and sales 3/4 through 2014

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I've a 2015 model that's becoming harder to use because of the outdated software and I'm not sure of a fix. The panel still looks great.

Depending on what you do either get an Nvidia Shield or an AppleTV. I'd recommend the Shield for Plex or the AppleTV for streaming Netflix, etc.

Yeah I don't even bother with the built in "smarts". Turn off wifi and bluetooth, don't plug in ethernet, and hook up a decent streaming box like an Apple TV or Shield. With that, it doesn't matter how outdated the TV's software is.

Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast

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I have a 2020 model I bought from Costco and as slow and shitty the UI is it also still burns 16W in standby.

There isn't a way to disable Chromecast either so thanks for nothing Sony and Google.

I need a dumb tv and Nvidia sheild.

Edit: I take the standby power usage part back. After settings changes including Eco stuff and something to do with remote start and a restart it's at 4W which is very acceptable.

The UI inexcusably still sucks though.

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It also is illegal in the EU for new devices. https://ec.europa.eu/info/energy-climate-change-environment/... : “Network-connected standby devices Modern appliances are increasingly connected to the internet during standby mode, consuming higher amounts of energy. This includes networked televisions and decoders, printers, game consoles and modems. - Specific requirements for network-connected standby devices were in…

There were devices that consumed 80 watts in standby. I have a cabinet full of equipment including my cable modem, a computer (server, no monitor) with 8 mechanical hard drives. The idle current is 76 watts or so. How could something be so high?

Audio amplifiers, especially old ones, can easily draw 100 watts when on 'standby' - ie. the amplifier is turned on but playing no sound.
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