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Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs

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Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs

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Fantasy fiction of a sysadmin that uses anonymity on the internet to craft themselves into someone more important than they are in real life.

> Fantasy fiction of a sysadmin that uses anonymity on the internet to craft themselves into someone more important than they are in real life.

No. Everything on reddit is true.

Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs

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post #8

What’s strange here is OpenShift as a target. The last I looked, VMs were just getting initial support - certainly not enough functionality or proving to encourage one to rehost 100k VMs onto it as a platform. Also why the assumption that IBM would treat them better than Broadcom/CA?

A commenter on the thread mentioned the VMWare price hikes, so it could be as simple as IBM sensing an opportunity to poach customers from VMWare (probably more overlap in potential customers than AWS/GCP/Azure) and aggressively selling OpenShift to the C-suite with a promise of "if we can get a deal done this year, we'll give you heavily discounted pricing for X years". It does seem a bit strange that all of these r…

Not strange at all, CEO and Finance talk about budget. If cost is going to 10x, by doing nothing then it is going to be an quick decision. Most CTO's would've brought it up in the last quarter and be working on it now.

This reddit post is just a late canary in the minefield that shows a what one sysadmin is doing at one MSP.

Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs

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My suspicion: these CEOs are trying to scope out the cost of adopting OpenShift, so that, when they're negotiating prices with VMWare, they can show how much money they would save with OpenShift in the long term. This may be essentially just an attempt to gain some negotiating leverage in the face of potential VMWare price hikes.

Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs

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post #7

This definitely feels fake. Either just a fabulist or someone mad at VMware and wants to scare them. CEOs of Fortune 500 companies do not know about the Linux virtualization market.

Yeah this seems odd for a Fortune 500 company’s CEO asking specifically for Linux VMs.

There’s not enough hours in the day where these CEOs would be so far down in the weeds of the business that they’re making VM flavor decisions.

Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs

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post #7

This definitely feels fake. Either just a fabulist or someone mad at VMware and wants to scare them. CEOs of Fortune 500 companies do not know about the Linux virtualization market.

Yeah this seems odd for a Fortune 500 company’s CEO asking specifically for Linux VMs. There’s not enough hours in the day where these CEOs would be so far down in the weeds of the business that they’re making VM flavor decisions.

That's why it's remarkable and worth well remarking about.

Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs

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This is Reddit, so taking any claims with a severely hefty earth sized grain of salt..

> Odd part 1: ... moving large numbers of VMs (100,000-500,000) over to Linux based virtualization in very short time frames.

> Odd part 4: Every one of these requests involves moving the VMs off VMWare or Hyper-V onto OpenShift, specifically.

As a Solution Architect at Red Hat, no sane sales rep would ever recommend or propose moving VMware footprints of that size onto OpenShift via OpenShift Virtualization[0]. As amazing as that payout would be, that would literally be account suicide if it ever got signed off on. The whole purpose behind OpenShift Virtualization is to aid in organization modernization as a way to consolidate workloads onto a single platform while giving app dev time to migrate their work to containers and microservice based deployments.

We are working on making OpenShift Virtualization as capable as we can (considering we're killing the Red Hat Virtualization product [upstream project: oVirt]) but it's not really meant, especially right now, to be a VMware replacement. That's what solutions like Nutanix are for.

This entire thing, if at all true which is unlikely, would smell of typical negotiation games to attempt to gain better pricing/discounts when it comes time for their VMware renewals. We see this a lot in attempts for customers to try and get better pricing when it comes Red Hat products, and potential customers the other way around with their existing vendors. Business is business and everyone will try to get the best deal they can, but the games do get annoying after a while.

[0] https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/cloud-computing/opens...

Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs

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Fantasy fiction of a sysadmin that uses anonymity on the internet to craft themselves into someone more important than they are in real life.

I lived through EMC's VMware tightening their grip, killing off our vendor "reflex firewall" by restricting their use of network APIs (to boost their Nicira acquisition which became NSX), then making us pay the vRAM vtax as part of the VSPP program (public cloud), and launching project Zephyr (vCloud Air) where they directly competed with us.

RIP VMware. Been getting Novell vibes from them for the last 10 years.

Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs

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I am struggeling so hard... IT departments of two customer companies just moved VMs with a one week deadline to Azure and everything stopped working and I have the responsibility as external developer...

Weird SSL errors I have no clue how to fix. I think they are talking about my clients in this reddit post.

Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs

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post #7

This definitely feels fake. Either just a fabulist or someone mad at VMware and wants to scare them. CEOs of Fortune 500 companies do not know about the Linux virtualization market.

Yeah this seems odd for a Fortune 500 company’s CEO asking specifically for Linux VMs. There’s not enough hours in the day where these CEOs would be so far down in the weeds of the business that they’re making VM flavor decisions.

As VMware is getting considerably more expensive it's reasonable to assume some CEOs are aware of that. It would be enough if one or two of them for one reason for another googled "cheap virtualization" or talked to some "tech guy" and somehow "Linux is cheap/free and can do virtualization" is what stuck with them. Then they talk to their friends at the golf club and after a while the topic reaches critical mass in those circles and spreads across those companies, probably not without playing "Chinese whispers" along the way.
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