Israel has extreme human rights issues they need to deal with before I'll consider doing business with them. The Israeli government insists on continuing to settle its citizens onto Palestinian territory, driving local Palestinians off their land. As long as settlements continue, businesses should not look to Israel as a country to work with.
I totally agree with you cq. Since Saturday 30+ people died in protests in Egypt. It was reported today that a news photographer in Syria got his eyes cut off before he was executed. Israel is such a douche.
How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub
11–20 of 60 posts
Re: How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub
#12Israel has extreme human rights issues they need to deal with before I'll consider doing business with them. The Israeli government insists on continuing to settle its citizens onto Palestinian territory, driving local Palestinians off their land. As long as settlements continue, businesses should not look to Israel as a country to work with.
With the Israeli government? Or with Israelis in general? Not doing business with Israelis because you disagree with policies of their government seems nonsensical to me.
Re: How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub
#13Israel has extreme human rights issues they need to deal with before I'll consider doing business with them. The Israeli government insists on continuing to settle its citizens onto Palestinian territory, driving local Palestinians off their land. As long as settlements continue, businesses should not look to Israel as a country to work with.
Contrary to what cq might wish to portray, Israel is by and large a fair society to live in. There's a reason that 20% of the population are Arabs who choose to stay in Israel instead of living in one of the surrounding countries.
Because they'd like to return to their homes one day?
Re: How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub
#14Israel has extreme human rights issues they need to deal with before I'll consider doing business with them. The Israeli government insists on continuing to settle its citizens onto Palestinian territory, driving local Palestinians off their land. As long as settlements continue, businesses should not look to Israel as a country to work with.
Contrary to what cq might wish to portray, Israel is by and large a fair society to live in. There's a reason that 20% of the population are Arabs who choose to stay in Israel instead of living in one of the surrounding countries.
Re: How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I totally agree with you cq. Since Saturday 30+ people died in protests in Egypt. It was reported today that a news photographer in Syria got his eyes cut off before he was executed. Israel is such a douche.
(I disagree with cq but your argument makes no sense. Other’s failings don’t excuse your own.)
Re: How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
With the Israeli government? Or with Israelis in general? Not doing business with Israelis because you disagree with policies of their government seems nonsensical to me.
You haven't heard of BDS then? http://www.bdsmovement.net/bdsintro
Re: How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
(I disagree with cq but your argument makes no sense. Other’s failings don’t excuse your own.)
Israel has a ton of failings but in comparison with every other country in the world it's ridiculous how much attention and focus Israel is getting.
Re: How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub
#18Israel has extreme human rights issues they need to deal with before I'll consider doing business with them. The Israeli government insists on continuing to settle its citizens onto Palestinian territory, driving local Palestinians off their land. As long as settlements continue, businesses should not look to Israel as a country to work with.
But: Israel also has a thriving democracy that subjects its government officials to constant, withering criticism and investigation. We have a court system that isn't afraid to punish government officials. (We just sent a former president to prison for rape, and a former prime minister is being tried for corruption.) We have a free press, with newspapers and blogs that raise every possible political idea you can imagine. We have mass rallies and protests. We allow our citizens to travel abroad wherever they want, whenever they want, and encourage them to speak with people from other countries. We invite people to come from other countries into Israel, and to travel more or less wherever they want, without government supervision.
(And yes, many of these privileges are unavailable to Palestinians. Believe me, many of us in Israel realize this, and both vote and act accordingly.)
I can understand and respect someone who says, "I'll only do business with liberal democracies like those in North America and Western Europe." That's a reasonable and consistent approach to things.
But to single Israel out for attention and boycott, when many countries have worse human-rights records and none of the positive democratic attributes I mentioned above? That seems both unfair, disingenuous, and lacking in perspective.
Re: How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
You haven't heard of BDS then? http://www.bdsmovement.net/bdsintro
I haven’t. A blanket boycott of all Israeli products and companies seems counterproductive to me, though.
Re: How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub
#20Guys look at this. I was about to same as CQ, http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/prominent-israeli-rabbi... Things are about to get so hot over there. This is very big news. This could be the thing that sets everything off.
This has no relevance to the posted story.
I really hope that we can leave the anti-Israel propaganda at Reddit, instead of bringing it to Hacker News.