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My Lack of Attention

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Re: My Lack of Attention

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post #7

So here's the thing. It takes work and effort to get attention. "if you build it, they will come". Never has one cliche been so exactly wrong. Programmers, myself included, believe(d) that the code is the product. That the code will speak for itself. That being "better" (for some definition of better) is enough. If I build it, they will come. The truth though, the code is about 10% of the effort to make a successful…

One of the best comments I have ever read on HN. Thanks. And: I fully agree!

Re: My Lack of Attention

#12
Marketing and networking are more important than most people realize.

You can have an amazing feature set but if no one knows about it then it wont get used.

It's the same with you as a developer. You can be the best developer in the world but you won't get paid like you are unless people know about you and you're in demand.

Also that title reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8ShAosqzI&ab_channel=Kolle...

Re: My Lack of Attention

#13

> But I don't want to steal attention, so I cannot write comments advertising my app. I am not that kind of person. I get it. But this is the kind of advertising that's OK in my book. Exposing people who are clearly interested (rather than maybe interested based on, for example, previous shopping habits) to something they have not heard of. And of course you don't want to steal attention, but you can do it in a polit…

Yeah they want the attention but they don't want take the required steps to get that attentions. Sometimes it helps to reflect on our values. Yes you might get offended at the loud mouths that crave attention all the time but that doesn't mean there isn't some value in that activity. Putting yourself out there and selling yourself is important. We all have something to offer the world. The way to maximize that is to get Infront of people and let them know what we have to offer.

Re: My Lack of Attention

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you care for that, then why aren't you filling out your HN profile?

I’m not the type to self promote much, plus, a lot of bad experiences in the industry (due to maverick type behavior), so filling out profiles seems like a waste of time. But, I’ll have to come out of hiding soon enough, have spent the last year+ developing a pretty unusual project. Actually I’m sure I should have been blogging about it already. But it’s hard for me to have positive expectations, and I know that alot…

Sorry to hear about your bad experiences. For me, filling out HN profile isn't about self promotion. It's about enabling like-minded folks on HN to reach out to me if they want to. If I don't do that, it creates an extremely big hurdle for people to do that since I'm not on any social networks.

p.s. Will refresh your profile a few more times.

Re: My Lack of Attention

#15

It feels vaguely on topic for me to speak about something that happened to me regarding an open source project I made. It was the one time that a project of mine generated a bit of buzz on HN. But I hadn’t posted it myself, someone else did. But they posted a link to a fork, which no changes of their own, claiming that someone else had posted it. The fork got 30 ish stars and follows, and nobody in the HN thread poin…

If the fork is using github, there's going to be lots of trails back to your project. Especially if you continue to update, and they don't, it'll show this branch is 30 commits behind your branch, etc... That's often a good indicator that I should check out your branch... even if the fork got better PR.

The suggestion to do an AMA in the post seems pretty decent too.

Re: My Lack of Attention

#16
post #7

So here's the thing. It takes work and effort to get attention. "if you build it, they will come". Never has one cliche been so exactly wrong. Programmers, myself included, believe(d) that the code is the product. That the code will speak for itself. That being "better" (for some definition of better) is enough. If I build it, they will come. The truth though, the code is about 10% of the effort to make a successful…

Sounds like advertizing gospel to me.

It implies that people aren't actively looking for better solutions to their problems, which is just blatantly false.

If industries spent all of their marketing budget on research and development, we'd live in a very different world. Maybe even a better one. A world where companies aren't asking "how can we fool people into buying more of what we're already making" and instead ask "what can we make that's so good it practically sells itself?"

Quality always rises to the top. That's a law of nature.

Re: My Lack of Attention

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To put it bluntly, if you're not "so good they can't ignore you", you need very good communication skills to promote your work. I would ask people close to me for feedback/advice on that.

Re: My Lack of Attention

#18
post #7

So here's the thing. It takes work and effort to get attention. "if you build it, they will come". Never has one cliche been so exactly wrong. Programmers, myself included, believe(d) that the code is the product. That the code will speak for itself. That being "better" (for some definition of better) is enough. If I build it, they will come. The truth though, the code is about 10% of the effort to make a successful…

Sounds like advertizing gospel to me. It implies that people aren't actively looking for better solutions to their problems, which is just blatantly false. If industries spent all of their marketing budget on research and development, we'd live in a very different world. Maybe even a better one. A world where companies aren't asking "how can we fool people into buying more of what we're already making" and instead as…

“ Quality always rises to the top. That's a law of nature.”

That is definitely not a law of nature.

Re: My Lack of Attention

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like advertizing gospel to me. It implies that people aren't actively looking for better solutions to their problems, which is just blatantly false. If industries spent all of their marketing budget on research and development, we'd live in a very different world. Maybe even a better one. A world where companies aren't asking "how can we fool people into buying more of what we're already making" and instead as…

“ Quality always rises to the top. That's a law of nature.” That is definitely not a law of nature.

Depends on how big the quality difference is, if it is big enough then your product will grow exponentially via word of mouth, like Google did for example. That is just simple math, if you are good enough that people want to tell others about it then it will grow.

Problem is that today most technological needs are already filled by good programs so adding significant new value to peoples lives is extremely hard, so it is very unlikely that you can make naturally growing programs today on a tiny budget.

Re: My Lack of Attention

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post #7

So here's the thing. It takes work and effort to get attention. "if you build it, they will come". Never has one cliche been so exactly wrong. Programmers, myself included, believe(d) that the code is the product. That the code will speak for itself. That being "better" (for some definition of better) is enough. If I build it, they will come. The truth though, the code is about 10% of the effort to make a successful…

Outstanding comment. Thank you for investing your time writing such a gem.
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