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The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Downfall implies a failure or ending, it seems like they're still selling like hotcakes. This is why we need regulation to save us from surveillance, most consumers want cheap and don't understand/care that they're selling their privacy instead.

some manufacturers are outright scamming people - philips has added advertisement to TVs after they were sold!

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Not mentioned: Samba(dot)TV... who are probably THE single most aggressive surveillance company operating in the Smart TV space. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/05/business/media/tv-viewer-... And the Pi-Hole list you want is here: https://github.com/Perflyst/PiHoleBlocklist

https://archive.ph/Lhr81

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Downfall implies a failure or ending, it seems like they're still selling like hotcakes. This is why we need regulation to save us from surveillance, most consumers want cheap and don't understand/care that they're selling their privacy instead.

They’re selling like hotcakes because you cannot find non-smart TVs anymore

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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There is a much better option for HN crowd: Buy a large/modern computer monitor and connect it to your homelab’s media server. Literally there is no need for a smart TV so long as you are capable of setting up a small homelab.

You can find these by searching “conference room monitor”

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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There is a much better option for HN crowd: Buy a large/modern computer monitor and connect it to your homelab’s media server. Literally there is no need for a smart TV so long as you are capable of setting up a small homelab.

I’d honestly rather watch adverts than have to run a home server again.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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post #9

There is a much better option for HN crowd: Buy a large/modern computer monitor and connect it to your homelab’s media server. Literally there is no need for a smart TV so long as you are capable of setting up a small homelab.

Eh, I’d rather get that ad subsidy and never connect the tv to the internet

Sure, until we reach the point of "always connected" TVs that will work.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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post #9

There is a much better option for HN crowd: Buy a large/modern computer monitor and connect it to your homelab’s media server. Literally there is no need for a smart TV so long as you are capable of setting up a small homelab.

Eh, I’d rather get that ad subsidy and never connect the tv to the internet

TVs will soon, if not already, come with cell phones; the ad revenue is larger than what they are charged for the cell phone IP traffic. TVs also reportedly use any open WiFi they can see, and use DoH to make DNS-based ad blocking impossible.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, I’d rather get that ad subsidy and never connect the tv to the internet

TVs will soon, if not already, come with cell phones; the ad revenue is larger than what they are charged for the cell phone IP traffic. TVs also reportedly use any open WiFi they can see, and use DoH to make DNS-based ad blocking impossible.

The "they use any open wifi they can see" myth has been brought up on HN multiple times, and never did anybody provide any credible proof of this rumour (that started as a single reddit comment).

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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There is a much better option for HN crowd: Buy a large/modern computer monitor and connect it to your homelab’s media server. Literally there is no need for a smart TV so long as you are capable of setting up a small homelab.

What about over-the-air TV
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