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How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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I know this will come across as a bit of flame-bait, but: What is the point in comparing two crappy news sources? Neither is worth spending time on. Also, more on-point: Are they looking only at news, or are they including opinion?

What are good news sources? I guarantee you that for any news source you pick, there are people who will argue that it is crappy and/or biased.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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post #5

I know this will come across as a bit of flame-bait, but: What is the point in comparing two crappy news sources? Neither is worth spending time on. Also, more on-point: Are they looking only at news, or are they including opinion?

The point is that they are both very popular [1] (and hence influential), no matter our opinion about them.

[1]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/373814/cable-news-networ...

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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It's disappointing, but just a fact of life now, that people will see the world so differently. People have always had differing politics, but there was a semblance of a baseline. I feel like we need a generation that strikes out against the notion of identity altogether (as I think identity is a core part of the issue), but that already feels like an identity in itself.

How else will I set myself apart from other people while also showing that any people are on my side?

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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I "really hate" how some "news" sites like to, "quote excessively" in headlines.

If you want to call some nonsense, or a bold face lie, have the damn courage to just call it that. Don't air-quoting some nebulous entity to make it sound more official.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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It's disappointing, but just a fact of life now, that people will see the world so differently. People have always had differing politics, but there was a semblance of a baseline. I feel like we need a generation that strikes out against the notion of identity altogether (as I think identity is a core part of the issue), but that already feels like an identity in itself.

Do you have particular examples of identity being a core part of the issue?

I see people complain about identity politics all the time, but when it comes down to it, the individual issues that fall under that umbrella are things that people deeply care about and can’t just be dismissed.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

#16

It's disappointing, but just a fact of life now, that people will see the world so differently. People have always had differing politics, but there was a semblance of a baseline. I feel like we need a generation that strikes out against the notion of identity altogether (as I think identity is a core part of the issue), but that already feels like an identity in itself.

I don't see the problem with people seeing the world differently now.

I see the problem with there only being two lenses through which to see. Think of all the things we must be missing!

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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It's disappointing, but just a fact of life now, that people will see the world so differently. People have always had differing politics, but there was a semblance of a baseline. I feel like we need a generation that strikes out against the notion of identity altogether (as I think identity is a core part of the issue), but that already feels like an identity in itself.

> but there was a semblance of a baseline.

How did you form that conclusion? I think the history of this country itself forms the greatest counter example to this point.

> I feel like we need a generation that strikes out against the notion of identity altogether

This feels like misplaced austerity. Human beings living their short lives absolutely have the right to their own identity, these are natural rights and desires.

This idea that we're going to fix this problem through deeper collectivism and removal of the individual instead of addressing the obvious problems of mass communication in our society is somewhat frightening to me.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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post #5

I know this will come across as a bit of flame-bait, but: What is the point in comparing two crappy news sources? Neither is worth spending time on. Also, more on-point: Are they looking only at news, or are they including opinion?

CNN is not a crappy news source.

It's mostly above board, if biased.

The non-opinion parts of Fox are not that bad but it's more rare.

My bet is they are looking at headline coverage both news and opinion.

I think this is a really worthy excercise so that we can see a bit more methodologically what kind of bias happens with selective coverage.

The tone and content of the coverage matters a lot.

Almost all of the editorial is bad on all sides. They have some insight, but it's so biased you have to hear other people talk in order to contextualize it.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

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I "really hate" how some "news" sites like to, "quote excessively" in headlines. If you want to call some nonsense, or a bold face lie, have the damn courage to just call it that. Don't air-quoting some nebulous entity to make it sound more official.

It's to deflect liability? If you are quoting someone, you aren't the one who could be sued.

Re: How does Fox vs. CNN compare in topic/event coverage over the last week?

#20
post #5

I know this will come across as a bit of flame-bait, but: What is the point in comparing two crappy news sources? Neither is worth spending time on. Also, more on-point: Are they looking only at news, or are they including opinion?

Because they're the two biggest news sources?

Combined? Nope.

CNN is chronically last. FoxNews is invariably first.

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