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.NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

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Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

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Post by wongarsu »

mikece wrote: post #2

It has been rumored for years that Microsoft might acquire Ubuntu. This is an interesting move though not proof of any such future merger. All of that said, it would be nice if Microsoft had the same level of cooperation with Fedora and another distro or two as well. (And where the hell is support for .NET Core on FreeBSD???)

I would have expected .NET's core demographic to be mostly CentOS and RHEL users. But I imagine Microsoft really wants you to run your workloads in Azure instead of on-premise, and Ubuntu fits that model better.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

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Post by throy939849500 »

mikece wrote: post #2

It has been rumored for years that Microsoft might acquire Ubuntu. This is an interesting move though not proof of any such future merger. All of that said, it would be nice if Microsoft had the same level of cooperation with Fedora and another distro or two as well. (And where the hell is support for .NET Core on FreeBSD???)

For FreeBSD support, see the following issue for the porting effort. The community has been working like hell to make it happen since 2015 and at this point we have regular unofficial builds: https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/14537

About 2 months ago they crushed hopes that official FreeBSD support will happen anytime soon by clearly stating that at this point, updating their Quality Assurance process to support FreeBSD would not make business sense for them as they have to put together an extensive test suit and manual testing procedures for every OS. Microsoft folks remain friendly and helpful in the thread though.

The FreeBSD ports system insists on requiring third party applications to be able to be built from source offline, while the .NET build process downloads packages left and right at various parts of the process. This is one of the things that complicates its inclusion in the ports tree. Building .NET for FreeBSD is close to rocket science, the community has worked to make the process way simpler. It is frustrating that the .NET team refuses to take things from there. Providing FreeBSD support is what I would expect from them to strengthen their cross-platform posture. This is the last major platform they need to support, and one being heavily used for servers.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

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Post by runfaster2000 »

bariskaya wrote: post #7

Seems like great news but I wonder if these releases help the .NET ecosystem in a meaningful anyway. Almost all .NET developers I know still use Windows even on cloud.

We maintain container images for both Linux and Windows. I can tell you that they both get a LOT of use (>10M pulls/month). .NET is very much a cross-platform app stack. Also, we get plenty of bug reports on Linux (which we diligently fix). The days of .NET being Windows-only (and closed source) are long over.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

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Post by runfaster2000 »

wongarsu wrote: post #11
mikece wrote: post #2

It has been rumored for years that Microsoft might acquire Ubuntu. This is an interesting move though not proof of any such future merger. All of that said, it would be nice if Microsoft had the same level of cooperation with Fedora and another distro or two as well. (And where the hell is support for .NET Core on FreeBSD???)

I would have expected .NET's core demographic to be mostly CentOS and RHEL users. But I imagine Microsoft really wants you to run your workloads in Azure instead of on-premise, and Ubuntu fits that model better.

We started with Red Hat. They were our .NET Core 1.0 launch partner (and remain a very close partner). You can run Red Hat on-prem or in the cloud (obviously).

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

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Post by sf_rob »

bariskaya wrote: post #7

Seems like great news but I wonder if these releases help the .NET ecosystem in a meaningful anyway. Almost all .NET developers I know still use Windows even on cloud.

Might this gain them marginal .NET developers? Maybe they have reason to believe that this will accelerate growth.

Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04

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Post by NDizzle »

bob1029 wrote: post #3

The .NET ecosystem is giving me a lot of confidence these days. I've been on this rollercoaster since .NET Core 2.x and don't think I will be getting off any time soon. We recently upgraded from 3.1 to 6, which was a total non-event. The code base that was around for Core 2.x is still the same one we have today. Some substantial changes made to the web interfaces and hosting, but nothing in the business logic or data…

Cost... linux images should be a fraction of the cost of a Windows image. Unless, of course, you're using Azure, where they subsidize the cost of SQL Server by charging more for linux boxes/containers.
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