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As an artist I am concerned about AI image generation

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Re: As an artist I am concerned about AI image generation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also apparently copies the artist’s logo. In a way, the “it just does what humans do but faster” argument is starting to follow the “a number can’t be illegal” trajectory.

Either way I support AI art and AI in other fields. Just because artists are mad it's gonna take their jobs does not seem like a legitimate reason to halt human progress. It's just inevitable the way things are going.

Whilst automation in textiles, agriculture, etc. brought measurable benefits to society, this will have few as it stands. I can think of a dozen things that are worth automating before this. This leaves me suspecting that projects like DALL-E are gunning for Shutterstock's $500 million annual profit and that's it.

Re: As an artist I am concerned about AI image generation

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Transfer learning to emulate artistic style [0] has been around for the better part of a decade and has had zero impact on artists’ livelihoods.

People consume art because they enjoy admiring the human talent that creates it, celebrating that some individuals are capable of extraordinary feats the vast majority of people are incapable of. It’s the same reason people watch sports—they enjoy admiring the top echelon of human physical ability. Very few people would watch Olympic Games performed by realistic androids.

I do agree that tools like this could eliminate mediocre graphic designers, or anyone else creating visual products that are so mundane that their viewers never bother to consider the artist. Corporate Memphis [1] designers’ days are numbered.

[0] https://blog.paperspace.com/art-style-transfer-neural-networ...

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Memphis

Re: As an artist I am concerned about AI image generation

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A lot of art created now, especially for film/ media, already goes through a similar process that AI just automates and accelerates. Several big concept artists I have met have lamented on the fact that many artists in the industry basically churn compositions out through mashing references they gather on google images or asset stores, not to mention just straight photobashing, which has made a lot of the concepts pr…

100% true.

Re: As an artist I am concerned about AI image generation

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Transfer learning to emulate artistic style [0] has been around for the better part of a decade and has had zero impact on artists’ livelihoods. People consume art because they enjoy admiring the human talent that creates it, celebrating that some individuals are capable of extraordinary feats the vast majority of people are incapable of. It’s the same reason people watch sports—they enjoy admiring the top echelon of…

> Very few people would watch Olympic Games performed by realistic androids.

Why not? a cyclist is a "realistic android" to a runner. It would just be different, more like F1.

Re: As an artist I am concerned about AI image generation

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Transfer learning to emulate artistic style [0] has been around for the better part of a decade and has had zero impact on artists’ livelihoods. People consume art because they enjoy admiring the human talent that creates it, celebrating that some individuals are capable of extraordinary feats the vast majority of people are incapable of. It’s the same reason people watch sports—they enjoy admiring the top echelon of…

It won't get rid of the bad ones, it'll hollow out the middle just like similar processes have everywhere else. There will be a few superstar concept artists making ridiculous amounts of money, a lump of often barely-competent copypasters/LLM-prompters doing it for $5, and no more space at all for people to have a career to comfortably grow and train their skills.

Re: As an artist I am concerned about AI image generation

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post #9

A lot of art created now, especially for film/ media, already goes through a similar process that AI just automates and accelerates. Several big concept artists I have met have lamented on the fact that many artists in the industry basically churn compositions out through mashing references they gather on google images or asset stores, not to mention just straight photobashing, which has made a lot of the concepts pr…

This sounds similar to complaints I've heard about music for film/TV. Often stock music is used as a placeholder during post-production, and then composers are told by producers to just rework the stock music instead of being given time to make something original. This leads to most shows having very "samey" soundtracks.

Re: As an artist I am concerned about AI image generation

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Transfer learning to emulate artistic style [0] has been around for the better part of a decade and has had zero impact on artists’ livelihoods. People consume art because they enjoy admiring the human talent that creates it, celebrating that some individuals are capable of extraordinary feats the vast majority of people are incapable of. It’s the same reason people watch sports—they enjoy admiring the top echelon of…

Presumably many remarkable artists did or maybe even still do have unremarkable day jobs where they can get paid to refine their skills.

Re: As an artist I am concerned about AI image generation

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Transfer learning to emulate artistic style [0] has been around for the better part of a decade and has had zero impact on artists’ livelihoods. People consume art because they enjoy admiring the human talent that creates it, celebrating that some individuals are capable of extraordinary feats the vast majority of people are incapable of. It’s the same reason people watch sports—they enjoy admiring the top echelon of…

> Very few people would watch Olympic Games performed by realistic androids. Why not? a cyclist is a "realistic android" to a runner. It would just be different, more like F1.

People celebrate F1 drivers a lot more than the automakers. Senna and Schumacher are far more famous as individuals than the teams they drove for.

I guarantee that if there is ever a self-driving cup, people will be mostly focused on the human engineering talent.

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