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Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by naniwaduni »

anotheruser092 wrote: post #9
bequanna wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Many Americans remain unaware of the spike in anti-Asian American racism and hate over the past year. ...yet on the same page the responses to "How has your opinion of Asian Americans, in general changed over the past 12 months?" overwhelmingly skew to "stayed the same" or "positive". Maybe I'm missing something, but it certainly seems like they are trying to push a narrative that even their own data doesn't suppor…

Where's the contradiction? If you assume that people answered honestly, it's very possible that remaining proportion of people who viewed Asian Americans negatively were more likely to express anti-Asian American racism and hate over the past year, instead of keeping quiet about their views. Furthermore, a lot of people are biased to skew their responses or lie due to social-desirability bias [1]. The responses are s…

> Furthermore, a lot of people are biased to skew their responses or lie due to social-desirability bias [1]. The responses are self-reported. It's highly plausible that many people said their opinion "stayed the same" while actually worsening.

Not just that, people are also just biased to believe their previous opinions are consistent with their current opinions.

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by Overtonwindow »

bequanna wrote: post #3
albatruss wrote: post #2

Source with interactive data: https://www.staatus-index.org

> Many Americans remain unaware of the spike in anti-Asian American racism and hate over the past year. ...yet on the same page the responses to "How has your opinion of Asian Americans, in general changed over the past 12 months?" overwhelmingly skew to "stayed the same" or "positive". Maybe I'm missing something, but it certainly seems like they are trying to push a narrative that even their own data doesn't suppor…

Something about the poll itself feels incendiary. I think these kinds of polls and the spin the media puts on them seems as if it was designed to stir the pot.

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by iosono88 »

vannevar wrote: post #4
albatruss wrote: post #2

Source with interactive data: https://www.staatus-index.org

The concerning stats are on slides 32 and 33, showing that an increasing number of Americans believe Asian Americans are more loyal to their country of origin, and that Asian Americans contributed to COVID-19. Unlike some of the other stats, this one isn't broken down by party. But I would bet that almost all of this increase was among Republicans. Slide 19 provides some support for this, as conservatives were more t…

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Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by jakear »

bequanna wrote: post #7
vannevar wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The concerning stats are on slides 32 and 33, showing that an increasing number of Americans believe Asian Americans are more loyal to their country of origin, and that Asian Americans contributed to COVID-19. Unlike some of the other stats, this one isn't broken down by party. But I would bet that almost all of this increase was among Republicans. Slide 19 provides some support for this, as conservatives were more t…

Look again. Their very own data doesn’t support your attempt to blame those darned racist conservatives. The parent comment link allows you to view responses by political affiliation and answers by conservatives skew greatly to a more “positive” view of Asian Americans over the past 12 months. Just a reminder to check your biases. Everything you don’t like isn’t caused by the other political party.

You're right, but you don't make a string claim or cite evidence, thus the downvotes. Here's the facts:

On the question of "Asian Americans as a group are more loyal to their country of origin than to the United States", Democrats experienced a 60% increase year over year in agreement (22=>35), whereas Republicans experienced only a 36% increase (24=>33).

On the question of "Asian Americans as a group are at least partly responsible for COVID-19", Democrats experienced a 135% increase year over year in agreement (10=>24), whereas Republicans experienced only a 91% increase (13=>25).

Now for my take on these facts:

I don't find either particularly concerning. There certainly are some Asian Americans who are more loyal to their country of origin than to the United States, and that ground truth number may or may not be accurately represented by these surveys in one or both years. There's no way to know from the information we are provided, and there's no reason to make a value judgement either way. (Is it "wrong" for someone to be more loyal to their home country?)

Regarding COVID, in my opinion Asian Americans as a group are absolutely at least partly responsible for COVID-19... but so is every other group! To claim that any group holds absolutely no responsibility of our collective handling of the global pandemic is absurd. We're all in this together.

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by vannevar »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #6
vannevar wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The concerning stats are on slides 32 and 33, showing that an increasing number of Americans believe Asian Americans are more loyal to their country of origin, and that Asian Americans contributed to COVID-19. Unlike some of the other stats, this one isn't broken down by party. But I would bet that almost all of this increase was among Republicans. Slide 19 provides some support for this, as conservatives were more t…

>Unlike some of the other stats, this one isn't broken down by party. But I would bet that almost all of this increase was among Republicans. Be the change you want to see in the world.

The change I want to see is broad recognition that Republican leaders are leveraging latent racism for political gain, so that moderate voters turn away from the party and it is forced to abandon that cynical strategy, which is actively dividing the country.

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by bruceb »

Overtonwindow wrote: post #12
bequanna wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Many Americans remain unaware of the spike in anti-Asian American racism and hate over the past year. ...yet on the same page the responses to "How has your opinion of Asian Americans, in general changed over the past 12 months?" overwhelmingly skew to "stayed the same" or "positive". Maybe I'm missing something, but it certainly seems like they are trying to push a narrative that even their own data doesn't suppor…

Something about the poll itself feels incendiary. I think these kinds of polls and the spin the media puts on them seems as if it was designed to stir the pot.

You don't get a $524m valuation without pushing clickbait and divisive content.

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by lanstin »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #6
vannevar wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The concerning stats are on slides 32 and 33, showing that an increasing number of Americans believe Asian Americans are more loyal to their country of origin, and that Asian Americans contributed to COVID-19. Unlike some of the other stats, this one isn't broken down by party. But I would bet that almost all of this increase was among Republicans. Slide 19 provides some support for this, as conservatives were more t…

>Unlike some of the other stats, this one isn't broken down by party. But I would bet that almost all of this increase was among Republicans. Be the change you want to see in the world.

I want a world where decisions are based in truth. And the truth is that the Republicans have given up on trying to stop their party members from being overtly racist and xenophobic.

Personally, I think some weird process of self-radicalization involving the newest mass media and a denial of reason and fear of change in racial demographics, has kicked in with the Republicans and they won’t be able to stop it internally; there are no lines of common decency where the swirling madness won’t push all the thoughtful people past. I believe the rest of the civic body will have to stop them using our power. Yes, science is real. no, there’s no big differences between ethnic groups. Yes, being racist fucks up society for a long time, let’s stop. Yes, women are human also. Yes, immigrants refresh and renew the US commitment to hard work leading to achievement and the US ability to respect, enjoy and combine all human cultures. We, the majority, will vote, organize to vote, and push this world view every day for a hundred years rather than slip back into authoritarian or racist past which was anti-science, anti-truth, and anti-virtue.

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by hairofadog »

jacobkg wrote: post #10

Anecdata: My wife is a doctor AT A HOSPITAL and someone yelped at her a couple weeks ago as she was leaving the parking lot: “Chinese, they don’t f*ing win! You don’t f*ing win!” Made us both very upset

Sorry that happened. Cheers to you both.
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