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What does my 80 year old father do to stay healthy?

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Re: What does my 80 year old father do to stay healthy?

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This is inspiring. I think tonight I'll go for a bike ride instead of drinking and playing video games.

Last summer I bought my 80-year-old father a bicycle. Just a few weeks later, his doctor said, "last time I saw you, you were pre-diabetic, now your readings look great. Whatever you're doing, keep doing that."

Unfortunately he didn't keep up, kept complaining about the seat being uncomfortable… what I eventually figured out is, he was riding in boxer shorts >_<

Re: What does my 80 year old father do to stay healthy?

#12
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One data point isn't that useful. > At age 111, America's oldest veteran is still smoking cigars, drinking whiskey and loving life > Richard Overton smokes 12 cigars a day, eats grits for breakfast and spends his days on the front porch of his Austin home. https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/2017/06/02/at-...

From a scientific perspective, no. But from a motivational perspective, it is.

Bike rides are nice (maybe the best?) but not everyone is the same. My mother in law is awaiting hip surgery after a lifetime of being physically active. Her husband, who lived the same life, is older, has no such problems. Of course genetics plays a part, that's the point.

Re: What does my 80 year old father do to stay healthy?

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This is survivorship bias at its finest.

What his father is experiencing is luck mixed with good genetics. Plus, additional support of good diet and exercise. Yes, we all can control our diets and exercise. However, we cannot control the medication that we take, which carry side effects. We cannot control what is in our food, we cannot control the air we breath, we cannot control cancer and hundreds other diseases. There are so MANY other factors.

If his father grew up somewhere where lead is a problem, I have a feeling the outcome might have been different.

The whole article is useless. My grandfather was an awful person, smoked all his life, drank most of it, and ate whatever he could. Lived to 78 and was healthy, at that point he committed suicide as he could not live without his wife, which passed away few months earlier. Ironically he was an awful husband.

This is all anecdotal and useless.

Re: What does my 80 year old father do to stay healthy?

#16
> His resting heart rate is just below 60 beats per minute. The steps pushed it up to 155 beats per minute. (His maximum heart rate should be 220 minus his age, 80. That’s only 140 beats per minute — far below what he is capable of!)

Sorry, that's not how this works. 220 - age is a very crude and not very good guess at the heart rate for a population. It is not YOUR max heart rate, and your max heart rate being higher or lower than that is not a sign of health. It is likely just a sign of your particular heart. It's worth checking in on it every few years and knowing yours.

On the other hand, resting heart rate of under 60 is good. Under 50 is likely better.

Re: What does my 80 year old father do to stay healthy?

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post #15

This is survivorship bias at its finest. What his father is experiencing is luck mixed with good genetics. Plus, additional support of good diet and exercise. Yes, we all can control our diets and exercise. However, we cannot control the medication that we take, which carry side effects. We cannot control what is in our food, we cannot control the air we breath, we cannot control cancer and hundreds other diseases. T…

Nonsense. No one is trying to establish a causal link here. Still, a concrete example of what's possible is useful and inspirational. If you do this, will you get this outcome? Probably not. Does it help me imagine a possible path? Yes, definitely.

Re: What does my 80 year old father do to stay healthy?

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post #8
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One data point isn't that useful. > At age 111, America's oldest veteran is still smoking cigars, drinking whiskey and loving life > Richard Overton smokes 12 cigars a day, eats grits for breakfast and spends his days on the front porch of his Austin home. https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/2017/06/02/at-...

You're clearly wrong as it relates to the post you're responding to. This one data point is going to get him to engage in a behavior that's healthier than the one he otherwise would've been engaged in, which is clearly good. Thus, the data point is useful! Not everything his to be a double blind study showing significant effects to be useful.

Well, from the one data point @eesmith provided, I'm picking up smoking as it must have done SOMETHIN for that guy.

Re: What does my 80 year old father do to stay healthy?

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Anecdotally, most of my family members who actively tried to stay healthy died relatively early (< 70 years). Those who didn't usually lived to be at least 85. My grandfather, who never did any type of sports, ate meat every day, who came home after worked and watched TV until bedtime and who drank 1-2 liters of cider per day after retirement died at 92 and was completely healthy up until a few hours before his death…

Funnily enough the “ate meat every day” part might be the key. Red meat boosts testosterone and testosterone plays a big role in mens health, especially as they age and experience the natural drop in testosterone levels.

Re: What does my 80 year old father do to stay healthy?

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post #15

This is survivorship bias at its finest. What his father is experiencing is luck mixed with good genetics. Plus, additional support of good diet and exercise. Yes, we all can control our diets and exercise. However, we cannot control the medication that we take, which carry side effects. We cannot control what is in our food, we cannot control the air we breath, we cannot control cancer and hundreds other diseases. T…

Nonsense. No one is trying to establish a causal link here. Still, a concrete example of what's possible is useful and inspirational. If you do this, will you get this outcome? Probably not. Does it help me imagine a possible path? Yes, definitely.

So, if the article mentioned {insert product name}, doing mushrooms, drinking and smoking, should I look at it as a possible path for me to achieve great health? Even though all it is, is just some survivorship bias? Should I think about doing those things? Am I wrong for not doing those things?
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