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Dear HN: I Don't care about your f*cking opinion

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Re: Dear HN: I Don't care about your f*cking opinion

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Post by nowarninglabel »

vanelsas wrote: post #6
MostAwesomeDude wrote: post #4

You just asked for HN's opinion, though, even though you don't care about it? That's a bit of doublethink right there. Anyway, yes, fuck you too, but if it makes you feel better, most of the Internet is populated by tools, trolls, and fools, and HN's not somehow above that. I'm not sure why you'd think that, either. As two of our greatest philosophers once noted, the Internet's greatest purpose is slandering others a…

I guess my writing skills are not so good. I think opinions matter, I just feel we can do a little less with f*cking opinions.

To me, your point was completely lost by the fact that you choose to attack people yourself, rather than highlight the stories with positive comments. You didn't really do a meaningful comparison, but rather just looked at two stories' comments and decided to write a rant about it. What would be cooler would be to take an Opinion Analyzer and run it over the comments from all stories for a week, and get a true idea of the factual amount of positive/negative.

Re: Dear HN: I Don't care about your f*cking opinion

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Post by jayfuerstenberg »

Every time HN down votes or strongly disagrees with my contributions, be they comments or submissions, I feel the same way as vanelsas.

Not having the right to down vote, I usually decide to go on an up vote rampage to throw the system out of whack, even if only in a minuscule way.

It's unfortunate that HN has a high concentration of people with nothing better to do than prove their superiority by tearing others apart.

It's not too unlike chimpanzee society with an alpha male exerting his dominance over the rest with a display of violence. It's not often that someone can constructively show me why my argument is missing some point.

You can down vote this too if you disagree with it. My karma here is a meaningless integer in a DB.

I'd rather have meaningful talks with open minded individuals.

Re: Dear HN: I Don't care about your f*cking opinion

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Post by extension »

So your opinion, and those that support it, are positive contributions while contrary opinions are spiteful and useless?

First of all, why are you here? To have people tell you that you are right, or to get closer to the truth? If it's the former, then this is the wrong place (and the right places would probably bore you).

If it's the latter, then we're going to have to put forward different ideas about what the truth might be. Some of them will be right and some wrong. One can be excessively rude about this, but I find that is a very minor problem here. Usually, HN commenters are only as blunt as they need to be to express an idea clearly.

What is more of a problem is when people get emotionally attached to their opinions and then get upset when anyone disagrees with them. We're only human, so that attachment tends to creep in. But staying detached is a much more sensible strategy than everybody walking on eggshells all the time.

I am far more impressed with people who can take criticism than I am with people who can refrain from giving it.

Re: Dear HN: I Don't care about your f*cking opinion

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Post by vanelsas »

nowarninglabel wrote: post #11
vanelsas wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess my writing skills are not so good. I think opinions matter, I just feel we can do a little less with f*cking opinions.

To me, your point was completely lost by the fact that you choose to attack people yourself, rather than highlight the stories with positive comments. You didn't really do a meaningful comparison, but rather just looked at two stories' comments and decided to write a rant about it. What would be cooler would be to take an Opinion Analyzer and run it over the comments from all stories for a week, and get a true idea o…

Good point, and I might have done a better job at it.

Re: Dear HN: I Don't care about your f*cking opinion

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Post by vanelsas »

extension wrote: post #13

So your opinion, and those that support it, are positive contributions while contrary opinions are spiteful and useless? First of all, why are you here? To have people tell you that you are right, or to get closer to the truth? If it's the former, then this is the wrong place (and the right places would probably bore you). If it's the latter, then we're going to have to put forward different ideas about what the trut…

I can fully agree to that. I am not suggesting censorship or refraining from criticisms. I just like to see people doing that respectfully and in a way that actually adds something to the discussion

Re: Dear HN: I Don't care about your f*cking opinion

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Post by MostAwesomeDude »

vanelsas wrote: post #6
MostAwesomeDude wrote: post #4

You just asked for HN's opinion, though, even though you don't care about it? That's a bit of doublethink right there. Anyway, yes, fuck you too, but if it makes you feel better, most of the Internet is populated by tools, trolls, and fools, and HN's not somehow above that. I'm not sure why you'd think that, either. As two of our greatest philosophers once noted, the Internet's greatest purpose is slandering others a…

I guess my writing skills are not so good. I think opinions matter, I just feel we can do a little less with f*cking opinions.

As I said a bit ago on another story, sometimes shit sucks. We can't always be positive when there's so much stupidity in our field, and trying to paper over it with positive thinking isn't necessarily constructive; sometimes it's actually damaging to progress. When somebody says that something fuckin' sucks, they're probably full of bullshit, but maybe they're onto something.
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