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Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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This company pretends it has the moral high ground, but like most of corporate America, they always have an eye on Chinese profits. America's future is at stake and we won't wake up until it's too late.

Does it matter what Apple does? I would think that reading "Made in Chinese Tiapei" only serves as a reminder of China's policy.

Apple will knuckle under in about 3 seconds when the war starts and do whatever the US government asks them to do.

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Does it matter what Apple does? I would think that reading "Made in Chinese Tiapei" only serves as a reminder of China's policy.

Apple will knuckle under in about 3 seconds when the war starts and do whatever the US government asks them to do.

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Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Why is this interesting? Taiwan has to compete in the Olympics as Chinese Taipei or whatever. Yeah, any place that China can influence, it makes Taiwan call itself China.

It's interesting because it shows how much influence the CCP has over the American company Apple.

Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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This company pretends it has the moral high ground, but like most of corporate America, they always have an eye on Chinese profits. America's future is at stake and we won't wake up until it's too late.

I disagree, Apple is acting exactly as it claims are its ethics, here. The part that needs discussion is how it prioritizes adhering to laws versus less specifically defined ethical values.

In my view, China acts abusively in many ways. And the country is currently important to modern global manufacturing.

In my understanding changing where a physical product company manufactures everything is horrifically difficult.

Apple very discretely talks about the ethical standards that it adheres to:

https://www.apple.com/compliance/policies/#:~:text=Apple%20t....

Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Why is this interesting? Taiwan has to compete in the Olympics as Chinese Taipei or whatever. Yeah, any place that China can influence, it makes Taiwan call itself China.

It is interesting because it exposes Apple, which as a company often tries to present itself as a champion of freedom, and other modern values. Yet as is reaffirmed here (and previously with AppStore etc), when profits are involved it is willing to overlook the most egregious forms of injustice and violence. Literally every tech company stands up for good causes like BLM and LGBTQ+ rights; but the true measure of cou…

> Literally every tech company stands up for good causes like BLM and LGBTQ+ rights

Well, in the countries where it is good PR to do so. They tend not to show the same face worldwide, in countries where it would not be good PR.

Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Why is this interesting? Taiwan has to compete in the Olympics as Chinese Taipei or whatever. Yeah, any place that China can influence, it makes Taiwan call itself China.

Taiwan calls itself China. The official name is literally the Republic of China. Both China and Taiwan agree that there is just one China, but disagree about what formal unification would or should look like. Edit: The USA also agrees that there is one China, at least officially, though it’s not like the US doesn’t like to change its mind frequently. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Communiqué

Both East Germany (when it existed) and West Germany were "Germany" and at least theoretically belived their government was the legitimate one for the whole territory, but products made in both were generally distinguished on their labels.

Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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Why is this interesting? Taiwan has to compete in the Olympics as Chinese Taipei or whatever. Yeah, any place that China can influence, it makes Taiwan call itself China.

It is interesting because it exposes Apple, which as a company often tries to present itself as a champion of freedom, and other modern values. Yet as is reaffirmed here (and previously with AppStore etc), when profits are involved it is willing to overlook the most egregious forms of injustice and violence. Literally every tech company stands up for good causes like BLM and LGBTQ+ rights; but the true measure of cou…

So we… expect Apple to break the law in China in order to make some kind of moral stand?

And that moral stand is over the sovereignty of a country?

Even though the US government, with vastly more resources at its disposal and more ability to withstand the consequences of Chinese anger, does not make this stand?

Re: Apple warns suppliers to follow China rules on 'Taiwan' labeling

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post #15

This company pretends it has the moral high ground, but like most of corporate America, they always have an eye on Chinese profits. America's future is at stake and we won't wake up until it's too late.

I disagree, Apple is acting exactly as it claims are its ethics, here. The part that needs discussion is how it prioritizes adhering to laws versus less specifically defined ethical values. In my view, China acts abusively in many ways. And the country is currently important to modern global manufacturing. In my understanding changing where a physical product company manufactures everything is horrifically difficult.…

>Change is typically hard, in my understanding of life, and changing where a physical product company manufactures everything is horrifically difficult.

Yes, but if any company has the money and the power to make those changes happen, it's Apple.

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