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Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

#12
This is Microsoft we’re talking about here. They provide OSes and PowerPoint for the CIA laptops that plan extrajudicial assassinations and torture sites, and groupware for the concentration camps for children down in Texas; their blatant commercialism is perhaps the least gross thing about them.

Imagine the most terrible dark patterns from LinkedIn (which they also own), and go self-host Gitea and move your repos.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

#13
post #8

People seem outraged about the marketing cookies. Genuine question: Why?

GitHub made a huge fuss in a blog post about their compliance with the ePrivacy directive not more than 2 years ago. I personally found their approach and interpretation interesting and unique, so this change seems noteworthy for that reason alone

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

#14

I don't understand why people care about cookies. The stupid cookie banners are an actual nuisance.

The nuisance is an intentional choice by the bad actors in marketing to make you mad about the banner instead of their business practices of tracking you everywhere.

Understand that cookie banners are malicious compliance and they make a lot more sense.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

#16

I don't understand why people care about cookies. The stupid cookie banners are an actual nuisance.

Only consent is needed for cookies that aren't strictly necessary.

https://gdpr.eu/cookies/

If a site is asking for consent, they're either idiots who don't understand what the law requires of them or they intend on tracking their users.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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post #8

People seem outraged about the marketing cookies. Genuine question: Why?

> marketing cookies

Do you think ads have gotten better or worse over time?

I think it's unequivocally worse now than it was then. There's a point where you're fed up with seeing the same ads for products you don't want or need.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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post #12

This is Microsoft we’re talking about here. They provide OSes and PowerPoint for the CIA laptops that plan extrajudicial assassinations and torture sites, and groupware for the concentration camps for children down in Texas; their blatant commercialism is perhaps the least gross thing about them. Imagine the most terrible dark patterns from LinkedIn (which they also own), and go self-host Gitea and move your repos.

So if CIA uses GNU/Linux and Libreoffice then should we gross out about Linux and stop using it?

Microsoft might have billions of problems but CIA using windows and PowerPoint isn't one of them.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

#19

I don't understand why people care about cookies. The stupid cookie banners are an actual nuisance.

The nuisance is an intentional choice by the bad actors in marketing to make you mad about the banner instead of their business practices of tracking you everywhere. Understand that cookie banners are malicious compliance and they make a lot more sense.

Why should I be mad about a tracking cookie?

> Understand that cookie banners are malicious compliance and they make a lot more sense.

How are they malicious compliance? The laws are poorly-reasoned and poorly-written. I'll continue to be mad about that.

Re: GitHub is adding web cookies for enterprise users

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post #8

People seem outraged about the marketing cookies. Genuine question: Why?

Slippery slope. First it's cookies for marketing, then it's selling your data, then it's "sponsored" repositories showing up in search. Next thing you know, recruiters are cold-calling you with your private email address and you can't even get to your own README without scrolling past banner ads and autoplay videos. After all, that's pretty much how the rest of the web works.

Do I really think that's going to happen? No. If GitHub were to introduce ads or invasive marketing everyone would move to GitLab in a second. A decent amount of people are already moving to GitLab and GitHub hasn't even done anything! Things like marketing cookies for analytics on marketing pages are genuinely not an issue.

But people take it as a sign, because of all the shit that goes on the rest of the web, and how GitHub explicitly said they were not going to do this. The fact they made a "commitment" not to do this is particularly important because it shows that GitHub's promises don't mean anything.

But migrating your repo is easy. Personally I'm going to wait until things actually get bad before moving.

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