Weird to generalize this over "Europe", since you better live in very specific countries/cities in the UK, Switzerland, Ireland, Netherlands, Luxembourg or Germany, otherwise those salary ranges are completely meaningless to you/your employers, especially the Tier 3 wages. Better naming would be "Compensation across Europe's biggest tech hubs".
Tech Compensation in Europe
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#12I've seen adverts for experienced developers that pay €35k. And life isn't that much cheaper in the cities here.
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#13Weird to generalize this over "Europe", since you better live in very specific countries/cities in the UK, Switzerland, Ireland, Netherlands, Luxembourg or Germany, otherwise those salary ranges are completely meaningless to you/your employers, especially the Tier 3 wages. Better naming would be "Compensation across Europe's biggest tech hubs".
Since the EU is a free market for employees with no immigration laws and mostly using the same currency, it's not weird at all.
I don't agree to generalize over Europe if you cherry-pick the few specific places where the 1% of the (top paying) jobs in the continent are.
If we cherry pick, we might as well be specific. It's why we refer to SV wages and not US wages. The difference is massive.
Europe tech wages as a whole, as pretty shit overall.
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#14The worst bit about this is that in Europe, employers don't have to pay for insurance versus the US side yet we still find ways to dick over our European hires by having them come in very low. I've worked at places making 150k USD where the most knowledgeable people I worked with were making 90k GBP in Europe. We lost a lot of people during the great exodus of inflation at the beginning of the "Ukraine training exerc…
Employees also have their own national insurance contribution which is deducted along with income tax.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Since the EU is a free market for employees with no immigration laws and mostly using the same currency, it's not weird at all.
Europe != EU I don't agree to generalize over Europe if you cherry-pick the few specific places where the 1% of the (top paying) jobs in the continent are. If we cherry pick, we might as well be specific. It's why we refer to SV wages and not US wages. The difference is massive. Europe tech wages as a whole, as pretty shit overall.
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#16It'll be interesting when they add Southern Europe. I've seen adverts for experienced developers that pay €35k. And life isn't that much cheaper in the cities here.
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#17Tax returns should be public. Like in Norway. That would sort out all kinds of "payment gap" issues as well.
I would guess it's the same in Denmark (even if they're not quite as socialist); Perhaps Finland.
But the majority of tech in Europe is: Dublin, Berlin and Amsterdam.
AFAIK none of those have host countries which publicly disclose tax information;
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#18Tax returns should be public. Like in Norway. That would sort out all kinds of "payment gap" issues as well.
Tax returns are public in Sweden too. I would guess it's the same in Denmark (even if they're not quite as socialist); Perhaps Finland. But the majority of tech in Europe is: Dublin, Berlin and Amsterdam. AFAIK none of those have host countries which publicly disclose tax information;
And Zurich and London (non-EU).