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Toyota RAV4 Prime hybrid SUV now selling for 48% over MSRP

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Re: Toyota RAV4 Prime hybrid SUV now selling for 48% over MSRP

#11

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> but the dealership wanted to charge me a $15k "dealership fee" Do your scare quotes mean you think it's unreasonable? It's supply and demand, isn't it?

To me, calling it a "dealership fee" implies I'm getting something special from the dealership in addition to buying the car from them.

You are getting something special -- the fact that they have one on hand. :)

Re: Toyota RAV4 Prime hybrid SUV now selling for 48% over MSRP

#12
Funny, when I tried out the range of hybrid Crossover SUVs (like the RAV4) in late 2020, I found the RAV4 Prime felt like driving a boat. It had a kind of inertia I didn't feel in other cars.

I ended up getting a Ford Escape Hybrid (not plug-in) instead, which I really like (then again, I guess it's a different kind of product, not being a plug-in hybrid)

Re: Toyota RAV4 Prime hybrid SUV now selling for 48% over MSRP

#13

Yup, I went to buy one last year, I think the advertised price was $40k, but the dealership wanted to charge me a $15k "dealership fee" for the pleasure of doing business with them. I went for a Tesla Model Y instead, and I'm very happy with it.

> but the dealership wanted to charge me a $15k "dealership fee" Do your scare quotes mean you think it's unreasonable? It's supply and demand, isn't it?

15k dealership fee is unreasonable.

Re: Toyota RAV4 Prime hybrid SUV now selling for 48% over MSRP

#14

I was hoping to buy a new car this year but frankly, there's nothing wrong with my 2012 Nissan Altima right now. I'm going to wait and hope that this craziness subsides soon.

If you can wait tell a dealer to put you on a list for allocation at the retail price.

Re: Toyota RAV4 Prime hybrid SUV now selling for 48% over MSRP

#15

Yup, I went to buy one last year, I think the advertised price was $40k, but the dealership wanted to charge me a $15k "dealership fee" for the pleasure of doing business with them. I went for a Tesla Model Y instead, and I'm very happy with it.

> but the dealership wanted to charge me a $15k "dealership fee" Do your scare quotes mean you think it's unreasonable? It's supply and demand, isn't it?

It's not just supply and demand, because the manufacturers have been pissed at the dealership markups, because it makes them look bad. And the manufacturers can't do anything about it because of state enforced middlemen in the car sale process.

And it's not scare quotes, I'm just using the phrase that they used, which I had never heard of before.

And, it was unreasonable, because of some details which I did not include, which is that the specific vehicle was listed as for sale on their website for $40k, but only when I called did they say that it was actually only for sale for $55k. That's a bait and switch.

Re: Toyota RAV4 Prime hybrid SUV now selling for 48% over MSRP

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but the dealership wanted to charge me a $15k "dealership fee" Do your scare quotes mean you think it's unreasonable? It's supply and demand, isn't it?

To me, calling it a "dealership fee" implies I'm getting something special from the dealership in addition to buying the car from them.

You are getting something special: A guaranteed financial loss.

$20k buys a lot of gas, and you get to finance it too.

Re: Toyota RAV4 Prime hybrid SUV now selling for 48% over MSRP

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but the dealership wanted to charge me a $15k "dealership fee" Do your scare quotes mean you think it's unreasonable? It's supply and demand, isn't it?

15k dealership fee is unreasonable.

Presumably it's reasonable because it's supported by market conditions?

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#18
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but the dealership wanted to charge me a $15k "dealership fee" Do your scare quotes mean you think it's unreasonable? It's supply and demand, isn't it?

It’s in scare quotes because it’s not a fee, it’s just a way of raising the price.

> it’s just a way of raising the price

All fees are a way of raising a price.

Re: Toyota RAV4 Prime hybrid SUV now selling for 48% over MSRP

#19

Yup, I went to buy one last year, I think the advertised price was $40k, but the dealership wanted to charge me a $15k "dealership fee" for the pleasure of doing business with them. I went for a Tesla Model Y instead, and I'm very happy with it.

Are Teslas the only electrics you can buy that way?

Re: Toyota RAV4 Prime hybrid SUV now selling for 48% over MSRP

#20

I was hoping to buy a new car this year but frankly, there's nothing wrong with my 2012 Nissan Altima right now. I'm going to wait and hope that this craziness subsides soon.

Likewise. Toyota Auris 2011 owner here. Does what I need it to do.

Not even sure what I’d replace it with, but there’s nothing I’m looking at that comes close to justifying it’s cost versus just keeping this running.

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