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Datadog dashboard for the Texas power grid

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Re: Datadog dashboard for the Texas power grid

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What are we supposed to glean from this as energy laymen? How do you provide data in a way that provides real meaning? All this data but no real insight.

For one, the peak price of electricity was ten times the usual low point (~$36)

I'm not sure what to make of the frequency drift; federally operators are supposed to balance it out for timekeeping, among other reasons.

Taking a week to get on-frequency is...not good.

Re: Datadog dashboard for the Texas power grid

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post #9

I got hit with a rolling blackout on Thursday. Coincidentally, settlement prices skyrocketed to over $1.2k. I should connect this data to my power transfer/backup power system to preempt potential blackouts

ERCOT didn't declare any capacity emergencies on that day, or any recent day. Is it possible you just suffered from a stochastic outage, and not a capacity-related intentional disconnection? https://www.ercot.com/services/comm/mkt_notices/opsmessages

Oooooor maybe they're not publishing notices when they should be.

The grid being under-frequency for days at a time shows they didn't have enough generation capacity.

Re: Datadog dashboard for the Texas power grid

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ERCOT didn't declare any capacity emergencies on that day, or any recent day. Is it possible you just suffered from a stochastic outage, and not a capacity-related intentional disconnection? https://www.ercot.com/services/comm/mkt_notices/opsmessages

Oooooor maybe they're not publishing notices when they should be. The grid being under-frequency for days at a time shows they didn't have enough generation capacity.

The hypothesis that there was a rolling outage invisible to everyone except one guy on a forum doesn't strike me as being very likely. Just an ordinary power outage seems a lot more likely.

Re: Datadog dashboard for the Texas power grid

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The surprising inference from me, as an energy layman, is that solar output coincides with periods of peak demand. Obviously this is seasonally adjusted, but in an era when the Saudis have solar contracts being supplied for $10USD/MWh [0], the potential profits for a solar provider at periods of peak demand seem more than sufficient to encourage investment, especially with interest rates still at a historic low for big capital projects.

So, what gives? Where's the solar?

[0] https://reneweconomy.com.au/saudi-solar-plant-locks-in-new-r...

Re: Datadog dashboard for the Texas power grid

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post #4

What are we supposed to glean from this as energy laymen? How do you provide data in a way that provides real meaning? All this data but no real insight.

For one, the peak price of electricity was ten times the usual low point (~$36) I'm not sure what to make of the frequency drift; federally operators are supposed to balance it out for timekeeping, among other reasons. Taking a week to get on-frequency is...not good.

TX is not a federal operator, correct? And what is the problem with drifting a bit? I know back in the day lots of peoples' clocks used it as a time reference, but that can't be very true today.

Re: Datadog dashboard for the Texas power grid

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post #4

What are we supposed to glean from this as energy laymen? How do you provide data in a way that provides real meaning? All this data but no real insight.

From the creator:

All good, it's just a ton of numbers without explanations. Here's a couple very basic insights tho:

Grid frequency below 59.8 is always bad, 60 is perfect

Capacity should be at least 1 GW above demand

Demand equaling capacity is bad

https://www.reddit.com/r/Austin/comments/lktl07/comment/gnn0...

Re: Datadog dashboard for the Texas power grid

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ERCOT didn't declare any capacity emergencies on that day, or any recent day. Is it possible you just suffered from a stochastic outage, and not a capacity-related intentional disconnection? https://www.ercot.com/services/comm/mkt_notices/opsmessages

Oooooor maybe they're not publishing notices when they should be. The grid being under-frequency for days at a time shows they didn't have enough generation capacity.

Are you misreading a label? The largest deviation is to 59.97 Hz.

Re: Datadog dashboard for the Texas power grid

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The surprising inference from me, as an energy layman, is that solar output coincides with periods of peak demand. Obviously this is seasonally adjusted, but in an era when the Saudis have solar contracts being supplied for $10USD/MWh [0], the potential profits for a solar provider at periods of peak demand seem more than sufficient to encourage investment, especially with interest rates still at a historic low for b…

Solar capacity in Texas tripled since last summer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/21/heat-ener...

Re: Datadog dashboard for the Texas power grid

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The surprising inference from me, as an energy layman, is that solar output coincides with periods of peak demand. Obviously this is seasonally adjusted, but in an era when the Saudis have solar contracts being supplied for $10USD/MWh [0], the potential profits for a solar provider at periods of peak demand seem more than sufficient to encourage investment, especially with interest rates still at a historic low for b…

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Re: Datadog dashboard for the Texas power grid

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I got hit with a rolling blackout on Thursday. Coincidentally, settlement prices skyrocketed to over $1.2k. I should connect this data to my power transfer/backup power system to preempt potential blackouts

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/do-you-know-the-difference-b...
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