Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–20 of 426 posts

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#11

Post by kmeisthax »

metalliqaz wrote: post #5

Amazon "... is turning their marketplace into a flea market of total junk." Man if this isn't the dead-on honest truth. Amazon is so garbage now that Walmart.com is a trusted supplier by comparison. I can't believe Amazon gets away with the crap they do. They so obviously turn a blind eye to constant, serious anti-consumer crap from Chinese sellers. Why? And why doesn't the FTC or any other department do anything?

Half of the Twitter thread is just talking about literal bribes paid to Amazon staff to conveniently change things in the system in the black-hat sellers' favor.

This is not a "why don't they fight the spam harder" problem. That's Google's problem. Amazon's problem is, apparently, that their corporate culture is so toxic and broken as to make any kind of internal controls or moderation outright useless.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#12

Post by DanAtC »

metalliqaz wrote: post #5

Amazon "... is turning their marketplace into a flea market of total junk." Man if this isn't the dead-on honest truth. Amazon is so garbage now that Walmart.com is a trusted supplier by comparison. I can't believe Amazon gets away with the crap they do. They so obviously turn a blind eye to constant, serious anti-consumer crap from Chinese sellers. Why? And why doesn't the FTC or any other department do anything?

Walmart has third-party sellers now too.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#14

Post by m463 »

tryptophan wrote: post #8

Shopping on amazon is really an awful experience nowdays. I really do not want to search through 40 pages of water kettles of really dubious brands. It is so anxiety inducing and unpleasant.

I think amazon has jumped the shark[1]

There is no practical way to buy a reputable/brand name on amazon.

Some brand names are "available", but it seems not officially and people are buying them at a store and shipping them to customers.

Other brand names are available, but the search results are paid (and manipulated) so they get crowded off the page by sponsored and "5 star (2)" results.

and so amazon as a brand is associated with junk.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#15

Post by drpgq »

metalliqaz wrote: post #5

Amazon "... is turning their marketplace into a flea market of total junk." Man if this isn't the dead-on honest truth. Amazon is so garbage now that Walmart.com is a trusted supplier by comparison. I can't believe Amazon gets away with the crap they do. They so obviously turn a blind eye to constant, serious anti-consumer crap from Chinese sellers. Why? And why doesn't the FTC or any other department do anything?

I wonder if they would care more if they got split from AWS

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#16

Post by pvg »

chainwax wrote: post #2

Quoted post unavailable.

Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—things like article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#17

Post by ms4720 »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #6

Everyone who does anything online should be required to hang out on some black hat internet forums and marketplaces. It really opens up your eyes to the sheer size of the fake account and bot traffic, market. It makes you skeptical of everything you see online. You can buy verified Twitter accounts, blue check mark accounts, Facebook ad accounts, Google AdSense/AdWords accounts, Amazon accounts, and more bot traffic…

Porn and cat pictures

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#18

Post by thrwwy5685865 »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #6

Everyone who does anything online should be required to hang out on some black hat internet forums and marketplaces. It really opens up your eyes to the sheer size of the fake account and bot traffic, market. It makes you skeptical of everything you see online. You can buy verified Twitter accounts, blue check mark accounts, Facebook ad accounts, Google AdSense/AdWords accounts, Amazon accounts, and more bot traffic…

Everyone who does anything online should be required to hang out on some black hat internet forums and marketplaces. It really opens up your eyes to the sheer size of the fake account and bot traffic, market. It makes you skeptical of everything you see online.

You can buy verified Twitter accounts, blue check mark accounts, Facebook ad accounts, Google AdSense/AdWords accounts, Amazon accounts, and more bot traffic than you can imagine. All for a few hundred dollars at most.

I wonder what the internet would really look like if there was no bot traffic, fake clicks, and fake accounts.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#19

Post by spaceman_2020 »

thrwwy5685865 wrote: post #18
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #6

Everyone who does anything online should be required to hang out on some black hat internet forums and marketplaces. It really opens up your eyes to the sheer size of the fake account and bot traffic, market. It makes you skeptical of everything you see online. You can buy verified Twitter accounts, blue check mark accounts, Facebook ad accounts, Google AdSense/AdWords accounts, Amazon accounts, and more bot traffic…

Everyone who does anything online should be required to hang out on some black hat internet forums and marketplaces. It really opens up your eyes to the sheer size of the fake account and bot traffic, market. It makes you skeptical of everything you see online. You can buy verified Twitter accounts, blue check mark accounts, Facebook ad accounts, Google AdSense/AdWords accounts, Amazon accounts, and more bot traffic…

Brilliant! :)

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#20

Post by callahad »

The New York Times did some decent reporting into the pseudo-brands which comes closer to answering the question in the title: having a registered trademark unlocks a lot of on-platform seller tools (predictive analytics, early review program, etc.), and the easiest path to a trademark is to have an utterly unique, nonsense name. Some Chinese municipalities were also offering cash incentives for citizens who obtained foreign intellectual property registrations, further exacerbating the problem.

Full article at https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/style/amazon-trademark-co...

Post reply on HN